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Post by greenbeing on Dec 5, 2005 0:32:00 GMT -5
I just have to say something in defense of BHD here--I thought it was a wonderfully made movie, though admittedly *very* difficult to watch! Anyway, if you can stand the realism and the graphic imagery, I highly recommend BHD. Most of the actors do a fantastic job, our Ron included, of course. I think I did say Black Hawk Down was a well-made movie--that's probably why it scared the sh*t out of me (though not as literally as that scene in the Runner). The mob mentality especially gave me the heebie-jeebies. I just couldn't stand the realism (I do really like living in my own little world, even if that's not the best way to live), which is why I wouldn't recommend it. My best friend couldn't believe I made it through the whole movie--he said when he saw it, it really scared him, too, and knowing me the way he does... This is on my list of highly traumatizing movies. 99% of movies don't make me cry, but this one did, and I was scared to walk around my own house afterward. I'm glad you liked Delivered, though! I really like that one. --GB |
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Post by shmeep on Dec 5, 2005 10:11:57 GMT -5
I'm very surprised to be saying this, but I believe Delivered is essential Eldard. He plays a character who is sick, evil, goofy, and adorable all at once, which seems to be his gift somehow. I thoroughly enjoyed what he brought to this rather bizairre film. All his looks were fun too, starting with black-haired goatee guy:  and then going through a change...   (His least sexy shaving shot, I'm sure.)  Until he ends up as this guy:  Fine with me! It made me sad when I looked this up and realized the lead in this movie (other than Ron), David Strickland, was the actor from Suddenly Susan who killed himself in 1999. I remember hearing about that, I just didn't put it together while I was watching.  Who else got a chuckle out of these glasses?  Thank you, everyone over at Ron-Eldard.com, for all the wonderful screencaps! |
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Post by minianne on Dec 5, 2005 14:54:25 GMT -5
Shmeep, you are so right in saying that "Reed" in "Delivered" was "essential Eldard". That said, I have so many questions about the character.
Does anyone know:
Where was Reed living?
Was that his house?
Did he live with a female relative?
Remember the chocolate cake scene? Did he bake it himself? That's part of the reason I think he might have been living with a female relative.
I have to say, the pink quilted robe with the lace collar and the nightcap had to have been the most bizarre costume Ron has ever worn. (Perhaps second to the giant chicken costume when he was working at Chicken Galore in Queens). The photo of him as Reed sitting under the dryer put me in mind of Nancy Reagan for some reason.
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Minianne
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Post by dogma on Dec 5, 2005 14:56:47 GMT -5
[/quote] This is on my list of highly traumatizing movies. 99% of movies don't make me cry, but this one did, [/quote] i don't know if i've missed certain scenes in BHD,, but i've seen it on cable lately,,,maybe it was toned down two movies that have certainly made an impact on me in the traumatizing dept is : deer hunter,, and shawshank redemption,, i remember i was with a group of friends in the 70's to see the deer hunter,, and there were several highly disturburbing scenes,, and i was eating rollos,, i haven't eaten a rollo since,,  |
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Post by shmeep on Dec 5, 2005 15:12:16 GMT -5
I have so many questions about the character. Does anyone know: Where was Reed living? Was that his house? Did he live with a female relative? Remember the chocolate cake scene? Did he bake it himself? That's part of the reason I think he might have been living with a female relative. I don't know anything for sure here, but I was under the impression that Reed was so hard to track down because he was living in the houses of people he had killed and using their things. It might have been left up to speculation on purpose just to add to the allure of his character. It sure is fun to imagine Reed baking a chocolate cake himself, isn't it? Makes you that much more inclined to root for the serial killer. |
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Post by minianne on Dec 5, 2005 15:29:49 GMT -5
Isn't it funny the things that ultimately creep you out the most? Just the idea of a serial killer baking himself a chocolate cake and sitting there with it and a glass of milk... Ewww!
Just the way he ran his finger through the icing and licked it off before connecting with "Pizza Man" on the telephone put a chill down my spine. Normalcy and perversion in the same space/time. The juxtaposition makes the goosebumps rise on my arms...
My take is that Reed was living in a deceased female relatives' home. He inherited and kept everything the same as it had been.
Reed was a serial killer, but his quirks really showed a "wimpy" side. Witness the sweet drinks, the chocolate cake, the bubble bath, etc. I'd say that we saw his first kills. Cut loose from his "cult" he was pushed over the edge. "Pizza Man's" tape became his new "religion".
M.
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Post by greenbeing on Dec 5, 2005 18:37:39 GMT -5
Isn't it funny the things that ultimately creep you out the most? Just the idea of a serial killer baking himself a chocolate cake and sitting there with it and a glass of milk... Ewww! Just the way he ran his finger through the icing and licked it off before connecting with "Pizza Man" on the telephone put a chill down my spine. Normalcy and perversion in the same space/time. The juxtaposition makes the goosebumps rise on my arms... My take is that Reed was living in a deceased female relatives' home. He inherited and kept everything the same as it had been. Reed was a serial killer, but his quirks really showed a "wimpy" side. Witness the sweet drinks, the chocolate cake, the bubble bath, etc. I'd say that we saw his first kills. Cut loose from his "cult" he was pushed over the edge. "Pizza Man's" tape became his new "religion". M. Thanks, Shmeep, for the screencaps! They were beautiful--I got a good laugh. The transformation was lovely, and I have to agree with the "essential Eldard" comment. The one cop says no one's home because the old lady visits relatives on the weekends. I was guessing Reed killed her. Why, I dunno. Maybe to show that the first guy wasn't his kill. Which I'm still undecided. If maybe he had killed before, but tried to curb his impulses, but lost his resolve at the Harre (sp?) Krishna incident? And that's when long-haired guy decided he was a loose cannon and had to fire him? Or if long-haired guy was his first kill and he liked it so much after that he went out and killed the old lady. Or maybe he was just a stalker and broke into her house, knowing she wouldn't be there. I didn't think the old lady was a relative of his, or he wouldn't have been wearing her dressing gown. I didn't find him "wimpy." I really enjoyed the effeminate aspects of his character because it was a unique take, yet didn't make him less creepy. He didn't seem to be trying to compensate for it in any way. It was just Reed's personality. When Reed and that guy were in the restaurant at the beginning, arguing, I at first thought they had a "relationship." And he almost seemed to be flirting with Will later. I loved his quirkiness! Yes, he probably is a very good baker. I thought the scene with the cake was lovely because it was so creepy. I could just picture him invited Will over for a piece of cake later... That was such a telling scene, and Minianne, you're right about the juxtaposition--it worked so well. And I really liked the way they showed his progression, his obsession with Will, and yes! how Will's tape became his new Bible, his new "religion." Such a great movie. --GB |
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