"Barfy" lines of Blind Justice

[inuvik]

krissie said:

Another thing I found... well... not barfy, exactly, because it was probably in character, was Christie hanging up on Jim when he suggested pottery classes. So... not barfy, so much as jarring. There was Jim, trying to come up with ideas for something they could do together... trying to negotiate with her, and she went right ahead and booked dance classes without any kind of consultation. She complains he doesn't talk to her, but it seems to me that she doesn't talk to him, either. (And, again, I'd better stop, or this will be a rant.)

Right on Krissie, karma! I have always thought that was strange. But I didn't think it was in character. That's just rude.

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inuvik said:

krissie said:

Another thing I found... well... not barfy, exactly, because it was probably in character, was Christie hanging up on Jim when he suggested pottery classes. So... not barfy, so much as jarring. There was Jim, trying to come up with ideas for something they could do together... trying to negotiate with her, and she went right ahead and booked dance classes without any kind of consultation. She complains he doesn't talk to her, but it seems to me that she doesn't talk to him, either. (And, again, I'd better stop, or this will be a rant.)

Right on Krissie, karma! I have always thought that was strange. But I didn't think it was in character. That's just rude.

BEYOND rude!!!!

[Chris]

I have to say, Christie hanging up on Jim, funny ;D
But booking danceclasses without even asking him, rude!!!

- Chris

[mlm828]

Let's not forget Glen Semple's totally inane comment to Tom about "black-on-black crime" and Black detectives being able to relate "on their level." I know the purpose is to show what an idiot Glen is, but it's still pretty awful.

The only good thing I can say is it gave us Tom's snappy "fat-on-fat crime" comeback.

[matilda]

mlm828 said:

Let's not forget Glen Semple's totally inane comment to Tom about "black-on-black crime" and Black detectives being able to relate "on their level." I know the purpose is to show what an idiot Glen is, but it's still pretty awful.

The only good thing I can say is it gave us Tom's snappy "fat-on-fat crime" comeback.

Yup, it was gross, gross, gross but no surprise to me, good writing I thought to illustrate idioticness of character.

Matilda

[Katryna]

I don't know if you would call it "Barfy", but I have a line that makes me particularly "squirmy".

In the Pilot when Karen and Jim meet Kim Chenowith, Karen introduces the two of them to Kim. Kim looks at Jim with a puzzled look on her face and he says "yeah, I'm blind". How would he know that is what her silent pause was about? I understand it is a device to work in that "Like totally blind?" line of hers, but it just seems out of character for Jim to say and I do squirm when he says it.

[mlm828]

kathy said:

I don't know if you would call it "Barfy", but I have a line that makes me particularly "squirmy".

In the Pilot when Karen and Jim meet Kim Chenowith, Karen introduces the two of them to Kim. Kim looks at Jim with a puzzled look on her face and he says "yeah, I'm blind". How would he know that is what her silent pause was about? I understand it is a device to work in that "Like totally blind?" line of hers, but it just seems out of character for Jim to say and I do squirm when he says it.

Interesting perspective. I always had a different "take" on that line, which is that Jim had already had plenty of experience with pauses like that when he met people for the first time, so he knew exactly what was happening with Ms. Chenowith.

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mlm828 said:

kathy said:

I don't know if you would call it "Barfy", but I have a line that makes me particularly "squirmy".

In the Pilot when Karen and Jim meet Kim Chenowith, Karen introduces the two of them to Kim. Kim looks at Jim with a puzzled look on her face and he says "yeah, I'm blind". How would he know that is what her silent pause was about? I understand it is a device to work in that "Like totally blind?" line of hers, but it just seems out of character for Jim to say and I do squirm when he says it.

Interesting perspective. I always had a different "take" on that line, which is that Jim had already had plenty of experience with pauses like that when he met people for the first time, so he knew exactly what was happening with Ms. Chenowith.

Yes, me too, figuring he was used to it. Kathy gives food for thought, though.

[Chris]

kathy said:

I don't know if you would call it "Barfy", but I have a line that makes me particularly "squirmy".

In the Pilot when Karen and Jim meet Kim Chenowith, Karen introduces the two of them to Kim. Kim looks at Jim with a puzzled look on her face and he says "yeah, I'm blind". How would he know that is what her silent pause was about? I understand it is a device to work in that "Like totally blind?" line of hers, but it just seems out of character for Jim to say and I do squirm when he says it.

The lovely Miz Chenowith says this little "uh?" so I've always seen it as Jim's answer to a question that wasn't asked - at least not in a very articulate way

One line that always makes me cringe is the one from Dance with Me;
"I just want to say how wonderful we think it is that you go out and do these kinds of things" (Barf!!!)



Come on, it's ballroom dancing, hardly any huge accomplishment, blind or not.

- Chris

[Katryna]

mlm828 said:

kathy said:

I don't know if you would call it "Barfy", but I have a line that makes me particularly "squirmy".

In the Pilot when Karen and Jim meet Kim Chenowith, Karen introduces the two of them to Kim. Kim looks at Jim with a puzzled look on her face and he says "yeah, I'm blind". How would he know that is what her silent pause was about? I understand it is a device to work in that "Like totally blind?" line of hers, but it just seems out of character for Jim to say and I do squirm when he says it.

Interesting perspective. I always had a different "take" on that line, which is that Jim had already had plenty of experience with pauses like that when he met people for the first time, so he knew exactly what was happening with Ms. Chenowith.

I see your point. Wouldn't this time have been somewhat different for him though? Here he was on the first day back at a job that he had fought hard to return to. He was with his new partner. He was trying to prove that he could do the job inspite of his blindness (the "elephant in the room"). I think that if anything, he would want to divert attention from it. He could easily have done that by starting to question Ms. Chenowith about her stolen car. That's my take on it. I just feel that the line was out of character. It still makes me squirm.

[mlm828]

chris said:

One line that always makes me cringe is the one from Dance with Me;
"I just want to say how wonderful we think it is that you go out and do these kinds of things" (Barf!!!)

Absolutely one of the most cringe-inducing lines of the entire series! What was she thinking?

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Agreed! I mean, really.

[mlm828]

kathy said:

I see your point. Wouldn't this time have been somewhat different for him though? Here he was on the first day back at a job that he had fought hard to return to. He was with his new partner. He was trying to prove that he could do the job inspite of his blindness (the "elephant in the room"). I think that if anything, he would want to divert attention from it. He could easily have done that by starting to question Ms. Chenowith about her stolen car. That's my take on it. I just feel that the line was out of character. It still makes me squirm.

And I can certainly see your point, too. He would want people to think of him first as a detective, instead of emphasizing his "difference." But I wonder. Maybe his way of defusing the issue is to meet it head-on by acknowledging the "elephant in the room," so he and the people he meets can address it, and then he can get on with the job. Perhaps he's learned from experience that taking the proverbial bull by the horns is more effective. And it seems in character that he would do this.

[Dreamfire]

kathy said:

I don't know if you would call it "Barfy", but I have a line that makes me particularly "squirmy".

In the Pilot when Karen and Jim meet Kim Chenowith, Karen introduces the two of them to Kim. Kim looks at Jim with a puzzled look on her face and he says "yeah, I'm blind". How would he know that is what her silent pause was about? I understand it is a device to work in that "Like totally blind?" line of hers, but it just seems out of character for Jim to say and I do squirm when he says it.

I'm with you Kath, this one is off for me too. I mean how stupid would he have looked if she were hesitating 'cause she'd noticed her cell phone vibrating and dived into her purse to get it, or because she looked at Karen and thought "Hey do I know you from that nightclub on ..." I've always justified it in my mind by saying the editors cut some dialogue of hers out inthe middle.

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mlm828 said:

kathy said:

I see your point. Wouldn't this time have been somewhat different for him though? Here he was on the first day back at a job that he had fought hard to return to. He was with his new partner. He was trying to prove that he could do the job inspite of his blindness (the "elephant in the room"). I think that if anything, he would want to divert attention from it. He could easily have done that by starting to question Ms. Chenowith about her stolen car. That's my take on it. I just feel that the line was out of character. It still makes me squirm.

And I can certainly see your point, too. He would want people to think of him first as a detective, instead of emphasizing his "difference." But I wonder. Maybe his way of defusing the issue is to meet it head-on by acknowledging the "elephant in the room," so he and the people he meets can address it, and then he can get on with the job. Perhaps he's learned from experience that taking the proverbial bull by the horns is more effective. And it seems in character that he would do this.

I think both theories are brilliant! I can see, now, why that line would make Kathy squirm - I'd never thought about it until she brought it to the table. Karma!

And I agree with mlm's theory, as well, since I, too, thought of it that way!

Nevertheless, "like totally blind" is not even barf-worthy; it's just plain rude.