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Post by Duchess of Lashes on Jul 2, 2006 6:19:17 GMT -5
We do not delete posts here, ever! Maybe some posts were moved into the Doubt: Spoilers thread, so as not to ruin the play for those who hadn't yet seen it. Or, could be there were days when there was no action in the thread because there was nothing new to report. Seriously, folks, this is the way it works around here. You can delete your own posts. The admins will never delete your posts. If we move something, we usually put up an announcement to that effect!!! No, the posts were not deleted; MLM is right in that they have been relegated to the Doubt I thread. What is strangely obvious is that other than those two weeks in June the thread ends at March 24th and the Doubt II tread picks up the first week in April. I have not researched every thread on this board but this seems to be the only one where the chronological order has been so misarranged. And, if you look at what that time frame covers, I think you can understand why it is I am asking. |
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Post by shmeep on Jul 2, 2006 9:06:36 GMT -5
At a glance, I can tell you in all honesty that the posts in the Doubt I thread were put there by you and were never moved. I never had anything to do with rearranging any Doubt threads, but it looks like Doubt II was started because the first one was getting too long and then you went and posted your experience in the original thread without realizing the other one was up and running. Had any admin moved anything, it would have been under her own avatar. We can move entire threads without them being marked by the transition, but individual posts can't be moved without it being obvious. So...nothing moved, nothing left. Everything is exactly where everyone posted it.
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Post by Duchess of Lashes on Jul 2, 2006 9:14:51 GMT -5
Ahhhhhhhhh, thanks Smeep for looking at this with an impartialityl Paranoia set in last night and I was so upset that I couldn't find my post! I didn't think I'd posted to the wrong thread cause I remember going through that thread and seeing MLM's visit, etc., before posting my experience. And it just struck me odd that all of a sudden I couldn't find my own when I went back to compare the musings of all of our visits!! And I wondered where it had gone!
But, it's found and if someone wanted to move it so it's in the right chronological order, I would be soooooooooooooo happy!!
Karma!
(of course, needless to say, I really do feel silly or to quote Steve Erkel, "Did I do that?")
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Post by Duchess of Lashes on Jul 2, 2006 9:24:26 GMT -5
Finally, an article about the closing of Doubt that doesn't blame it's closing on its current cast and points out that they all signed contract extensions to keep it on Broadway this long......
Doubt Vanishes From Broadway July 2
By Kenneth Jones
02 Jul 2006
The Broadway production of John Patrick Shanley's Pulitzer Prize-winning Doubt ends July 2, but the potent questions raised in the drama will linger on a national tour in the coming months.
Winner of the 2005 Tony Award for Best Play, Doubt, directed by Tony winner Doug Hughes, will (by closing time) have played 525 performances and 25 previews at the Walter Kerr Theatre.
Next up at the Kerr, beginning in October, will be the musical Grey Gardens.
When it completes its run, Doubt will be the fifth longest running play of the past 10 years. The current cast members — Eileen Atkins as Sister Aloysius and Ron Eldard as Father Flynn, with Jena Malone as Sister James and Adriane Lenox as Mrs. Muller — extended their contracts several weeks to play through July 2. Lenox won the Tony for Best Featured Actress in a Play.
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Cherry Jones, who won a 2005 Tony Award for Best Actress in a Play for her performance as Sister Aloysius, will headline a national tour of the drama, launching September 2006 at the Ahmanson Theatre in Los Angeles.
Doubt was originally produced by Manhattan Theatre Club Off-Broadway at Stage I at New York City Center, where it opened Nov. 23, 2004 to rave reviews, and played for 101 performances through Jan. 30, 2005.
The production began performances on Broadway on March 9, 2005 and opened on March 31, 2005 at the Walter Kerr Theatre. The Broadway production is produced by Carole Shorenstein Hays; MTC Productions, Inc. (Lynne Meadow, artistic director; Barry Grove, executive producer); Roger Berlind; and Scott Rudin.
"Set against the backdrop of a Bronx Catholic school in 1964, Doubt is the story of a strong-minded woman faced with a difficult decision. Should she voice concerns about one of her male colleagues…even if she's not entirely certain of the truth?"
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Post by shmeep on Jul 2, 2006 10:40:29 GMT -5
I'm glad that was figured out and thanks for the karma! About this... But, it's found and if someone wanted to move it so it's in the right chronological order, I would be soooooooooooooo happy!! That's not something we can do. We can take things out of threads or move entire threads, but inserting a post into the middle of a thread isn't possible. Anything we move gets put in chronological order according to when it is moved, not when it was written. Sorry about that! |
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Post by Duchess of Lashes on Jul 2, 2006 10:53:37 GMT -5
I'm glad that was figured out and thanks for the karma! About this... But, it's found and if someone wanted to move it so it's in the right chronological order, I would be soooooooooooooo happy!! That's not something we can do. We can take things out of threads or move entire threads, but inserting a post into the middle of a thread isn't possible. Anything we move gets put in chronological order according to when it is moved, not when it was written. Sorry about that! Oh, well, it was worth a shot....and now at least I know where to find it! |
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Post by maggiethecat on Jul 2, 2006 15:47:56 GMT -5
As the great Angela Lansbury once said in an interview, “I live my life in paroxysms of remembered embarrassment.” Me, too. But here’s the deal. You might as well be yourself — the minute we walked away we were gone from his mind. It’s not as though we’re gonna be sitting around in a few years over a beer and he’ll say, “Remember the time you couldn’t work the camera at the stage door, you big ninny?” So who cares? We made him laugh. Speak for yourself Maggie. I for one know he remembers me. I am, after all, unforgettable. I'm sure he'll be calling for lunch the next time he is in town, we'll just have to wait and see if I can fit him in my schedule. I've been giggling over this since yesterday! Having grown up on James Thurber, Dorothy Parker, and Mark Twain, if it's one thing I appreciate it's a well crafted piece of sarcastic humor. Tooooooooooo funny, Miss Mouse. ;D PS Having met you, I can attest to the fact that you are indeed unforgettable.  |
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Post by housemouse on Jul 2, 2006 16:14:49 GMT -5
Thanks for understanding my slightly skewed sense of humor Maggie! Karma for you!
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Post by anna on Jul 2, 2006 18:36:03 GMT -5
The friend with whom I came to NYC in January and I had decided to do another theatre run this summer. When the closing of Doubt on July 2 was announced, she indulged me by agreeing to arrange the trip around the final performance. So . . . I was there this afternoon.
I believe it was LL who said that she thought that the performances had improved since January, and I agree. Adrianne Lenox was still perfection, but I thought that I detected subtle differences. I still am not a fan of Jena Malone's performance. but she at least deserves the end-of-camp "Most Improved" certificate. I am not excusing her weakness on the stage, but I will say that she is an award-winning screen actress, she has a very busy film career, and she did not need this. She took the risk, stuck with it, and obviously has learned some things from her betters.
As good as I thought Ron was in January, I can see that he has settled into the role now. He brings even more to it - more subtlety, more humor, more pain.
The biggest surprises for me were the changes in Eileen Atkins' performance. I wish I had the two - January and today - on film to compare side by side. For example, her delivery of the line, "You lie," was entirely different. In January, it was a retort; today, it was a verdict.
At the end, Ron stopped the applause and gave a heartfelt little speech, thanking the audience for supporting the play - specifically for giving a straight play like Doubt a chance to survive for a year and a half in the expensive world of Broadway. He then thanked Jena and Adriane, who were both trying to hold back tears. He turned to Eileen Atkins - who looked victorious and joyful - held out his hand, and said, "And you . . . you . . ." If she were forty years younger, and I were more effusive, I would say that she threw herself into his arms. They kissed each other on the cheek - a real smacker that you could hear, not an air kiss - and then the final performance of Doubt was over.
I had a great time. If anyone is interested in a play that does not include the blonde dude, I can recommend The History Boys. Marvelous.
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Post by bjobsessed on Jul 2, 2006 20:29:39 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing Anna. The final performance of Doubt has been on my mind all day. It's nice to know it ended on a positive note. And from what we all know of Ron, it doesn't surprise me that he did that, although maybe it was all planned anyway.
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Post by Katryna on Jul 2, 2006 21:58:35 GMT -5
Anna wasn't the only one from the board in the audience today. When it was announced in May that today would be the final performance, Mary (RDUcasey) and I decided we wanted to be there. Subsequently we found that Bebe (Barbara) also had a ticket for today's performance. The three of us met for lunch and as always - had a wonderful time. I really wish that Ron knew what amazing friendships have been born because of our admiration for his acting skills! We went our separate ways at the theatre - Barbara to her 3rd row seat and Mary and I to row 6. As you all know, this was not the first time Mary and I have seen this play. Each time I see it, I love it more. Ron's performance was amazing as always. He and Eileen Atkins are fabulous together, and I think they have both grown in the portrayal of their characters. It has been an honor and a joy to see them on stage together. Today's audience was very responsive to what was happening on stage and I sensed a real sympathy towards Father Flynn. As Anna wrote, after their bows, Ron spoke briefly to the audience, thanking everyone there for supporting the final performance and also pointing out what a great run Doubt had for a Straight play of 525 performances. This makes it the fifth longest running play of the past ten years. There was a party for the cast and crew backstage immediately following the play. Inspite of this, all four actors came outside the stage door and signed playbills, though their appearances outside were a little briefer than in the past. Ron Eldard was his usual gracious self. He signed playbills and chatted with the fans before he was called back inside as he had a guest waiting (someone we all know, actually). I was fortunate enough to take a few pictures and shake his hand and wish him success in the future before he did go back inside. All in all, it was a day I will never forget! And here's a souvenir for you all. Check out the fingernails, girls. Rumor has it, he will be clipping them tonight!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2006 22:35:08 GMT -5
Anna wasn't the only one from the board in the audience today. When it was announced in May that today would be the final performance, Mary (RDUcasey) and I decided we wanted to be there. Subsequently we found that Bebe (Barbara) also had a ticket for today's performance. The three of us met for lunch and as always - had a wonderful time. I really wish that Ron knew what amazing friendships have been born because of our admiration for his acting skills! We went our separate ways at the theatre - Barbara to her 3rd row seat and Mary and I to row 6. As you all know, this was not the first time Mary and I have seen this play. Each time I see it, I love it more. Ron's performance was amazing as always. He and Eileen Atkins are fabulous together, and I think they have both grown in the portrayal of their characters. It has been an honor and a joy to see them on stage together. Today's audience was very responsive to what was happening on stage and I sensed a real sympathy towards Father Flynn. As Anna wrote, after their bows, Ron spoke briefly to the audience, thanking everyone there for supporting the final performance and also pointing out what a great run Doubt had for a Straight play of 525 performances. This makes it the fifth longest running play of the past ten years. There was a party for the cast and crew backstage immediately following the play. Inspite of this, all four actors came outside the stage door and signed playbills, though their appearances outside were a little briefer than in the past. Ron Eldard was his usual gracious self. He signed playbills and chatted with the fans before he was called back inside as he had a guest waiting (someone we all know, actually). I was fortunate enough to take a few pictures and shake his hand and wish him success in the future before he did go back inside. All in all, it was a day I will never forget! And here's a souvenir for you all. Check out the fingernails, girls. Rumor has it, he will be clipping them tonight! So needs to cut them! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2006 22:41:58 GMT -5
I must say that I had a blast with Mary and Kathy, as always! We laughed, we plotzed, we mourned - six months and it's over.
Needless to say, Ron was awesome this afternoon and, as Kathy said, he gave a beautiful speech, thanking us for coming to see the show and supporting it and Broadway. And, from what I understand, the actors did go outside and sign playbills, etc. and chat with the fans.
As for the fingernails, a picture is worth a thousand words, that's for sure. Ew! Sorry, love him, hate the nails. And it's no rumor that he's cutting them tonight....he told me he was.
I was the guest he had waiting for him backstage.
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Post by rducasey on Jul 3, 2006 6:18:44 GMT -5
Oh Kathy, a picture so fast, You are amazing with that digital.
I am so glad that we did go back. It is just too tough living so close to NY to stay away, knowing it was at it's end. I can't add much more to what Kathy, and Anna have said about the play. I thought Adrienne's performance was more emotional this time, and considering she was the only member who was on from day 1, that was understandable. There was a feeling of excitement in the audiance before the play began, and I felt this time the sympathies from the audiance were with Father Flynn. There were many audible gasps as a reaction to dialogue. Ron was remarkable, just an amazing actor. His little speech at the end of the curtain calls was just so Ron, beautifully spoken, touching and humble as he thanked everyone and praised his fellow cast members. (I couldn't help but picture Jimmy Dunbar as he raised his index finger (just like the speedbag scene) to get everyone's attention to begin his little speech.) There were quite a few more people at the stage door than before but he accommodated everyone. Since I'd had playbills signed before I did remain in the background and just observed this time, with just a wish of good luck to him.
A funny story. There was a young woman, passing by as he finished up with
some fans,before going back inside.She came up to Kathy and I and, "WHO is that?" "He is the most handsome man I have ever seen". She had never heard of him, but did remember B/J, and said, "Wow, he is incredible". We at first thought she had been to the play but she said, "no she was just passing by". "I'm going to go right home now", she said "and look him up." I said, "OK but tell me his name now", and she said, "oh dear, I forget what you said, Rob Eldid, or something? " I made her spell it. So I guess he may have another fan.
I had so much fun as usual with Kathy and with Barb, and yes, it pays to be "his friend from the hood" as Barb did have the special privilege of being his guest backstage. So Kathy, more pictures please. I took a few with the camera setting on 'review" instead of "capture", so, no pics from me.
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Post by bjobsessed on Jul 3, 2006 10:21:50 GMT -5
That's a great story, Mary! And so typical too. Sounds like you all had a great time. Wish it could have lasted one more month. At least you guys were there to share the experience and then share it with us. Can't wait for more pictures!
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