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Post by inuvik on Nov 21, 2006 12:52:20 GMT -5
And, Michael spoke more nomally some of this episode--yay! And he's a really good crier. It's nice when he actually emotes. This TWoP recaplet of last night's episode is dedicated to you, Inuvik! Aww, thanks, Shmeep! That also bugged me! I thought time was of the essence here. Really, people, tsk tsk! Ha ha, groan. Are they actually going to Canada, or is that just a fun drug joke? I can't remember what their plans are. (And actually, it's not a mystery anyway--she was in pain and had a stomache, obviously needing her medicine soon.)
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Post by shmeep on Nov 21, 2006 13:08:56 GMT -5
I'd like to know why everyone on earth has a photo of the Fox River 8 and their wives handy at all the exact wrong moments. I really don't think I'd instantly recognize someone from a photo like that. Unless that somebody was slinking around and looking over his shoulder every two seconds (as most of them seem to do most of the time). Except for Michael. He puts on his dorky cap and buys fake nitroglycerin and steals a GPS and no one has his mugshot handy. But a nice woman goes into the pharmacy to buy some medicine and the woman happens to have her picture right there? If that were me, I'm sure it would never occur to me that that was the same woman as the one in the blurry photograph.
It's like when that waitress recognized LJ when they stopped at a Quickie Mart or wherever that was. He lingered a moment too long, started looking shifty, and then her doubts were confirmed. These guys need to learn to start playing it cool. Geez!
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Post by mlm828 on Nov 21, 2006 18:34:09 GMT -5
Michael airs his many grievances with Aldo at the top of his lungs, and I don't want to confuse correlation with causation here, but I'm pretty sure that's why Mahone was able to find them so easily. The One World Conspiracy stooge manages to shoot Aldo clean through the liver, and although the boys are in a hurry to catch a plane, they still have time to pull over, bury Aldo, erect an aesthetically-pleasing cairn, conduct a full funeral service, then sit around and talk about their feelings, Then they decide that enough's enough, pack Sucre on the plane to South America, and vow to take down the One World Conspiracy. That scene annoyed me, too. I kept thinking, "C'mon guys, get a move on." I'd like to know why everyone on earth has a photo of the Fox River 8 and their wives handy at all the exact wrong moments. I really don't think I'd instantly recognize someone from a photo like that. Unless that somebody was slinking around and looking over his shoulder every two seconds (as most of them seem to do most of the time). . . . These guys need to learn to start playing it cool. Geez! You are so right! A few thoughts on this week's episode. No T-Bag. I wonder what he's up to -- no good, I'm sure. I'm still wondering how he survived the second detaching of his hand, then managed to kill Geary one-handed -- but this is Prison Break, after all. What's become of Haywire? Will we ever see him again? Surely Sara wasn't underwater for as long as it seemed. Or was that just me? Good job with the iron, sister! I didn't wonder why she didn't finish off Kellerman, because I'm not sure she had the means to do it at hand. I'm not sure where he left his gun. Besides, it just wouldn't be Prison Break without the Magnificent Bastard. Speaking of Kellerman, what will he do, now that he's a "non-person"? Somehow, I still don't see him turning into a good guy, in spite of his hesitation (in the previous episode) about killing Sara. Getting out the plastic bag and hacksaw left no doubt about his intent. At best, he might unintentionally help Michael et al. while pursuing his own ends. So does he now go after Sara, to get payback for her escape, and in hopes of redeeming himself with the conspiracy? Or does he turn his attention to Mr. Kim? Bellick, you are so screwed. It was suggested on the TWoP board that he would be exonerated when Geary's time of death was established, because it would be shown Geary was killed while Bellick was at the hospital. But I don't think time of death can be established as precisely as the "CSI" shows lead people to believe.
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Post by hoosier on Nov 21, 2006 18:38:03 GMT -5
I'd like to know why everyone on earth has a photo of the Fox River 8 and their wives handy at all the exact wrong moments. I really don't think I'd instantly recognize someone from a photo like that. Unless that somebody was slinking around and looking over his shoulder every two seconds (as most of them seem to do most of the time). Except for Michael. He puts on his dorky cap and buys fake nitroglycerin and steals a GPS and no one has his mugshot handy. But a nice woman goes into the pharmacy to buy some medicine and the woman happens to have her picture right there? If that were me, I'm sure it would never occur to me that that was the same woman as the one in the blurry photograph. It's like when that waitress recognized LJ when they stopped at a Quickie Mart or wherever that was. He lingered a moment too long, started looking shifty, and then her doubts were confirmed. These guys need to learn to start playing it cool. Geez! Exactly! I have always thought that if I did actually recognize someone from a newspaper or on-air picture I would be shocked!When I saw C-Note and family were in North Dakota I thought they were on their way to Canada. What was with the camping out, people? Run for the border!!!! Though implausible, I was cheering for Sarah. Some of Michael's resourcefulness must have rubbed off. When Kellerman was trying to fight her off I was almost yelling, "kick him where it counts!" And seeing her suture her her own wound! She is becoming one tough cookie. Looks like Sucre is going to try and bail from the plane as the jet fires on them but whether he makes it or not is to be seen. Until next week.
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Post by shmeep on Nov 28, 2006 13:56:16 GMT -5
I don't want to wait until January 22 to find out what happens next! How great was last night's episode? I was sure kept in suspense. I had no idea who Kellerman was working for or who he was going to kill. Ah, that was a great and satisfying surprise twist right at the end. Love it!
I'm relieved that all Sara did was cut her hair. Did anyone else think she was about to do something really stupid? But what will happen if Kellerman and the boys meet up with her again? How quick do you think she'll be to forgive "Lance"?
And Bill Kim/Don Yun really turned evil, didn't he? I knew he was bad, but...you can practically see the horns growing from his head now. I love him as a bad guy, especially since I know he once used to have a three-legged dog he loved.
And did you catch the other Blind Justice alumnus? Peg, who killed her mother-in-law and drank cheap-ass scotch? She was T-Bag's new love interest. It was weird seeing her play a sweet person. Gave me a turn. I only know her as Peg and then as some psycho person who had been taken over by an alien on Invasion so this was an interesting change. Too bad he had to kill her. Did it not occur to T-Bag that his photo just might be up in a Post Office? Geez.
I loved seeing Bellick getting stuck in Gen-pop at Fox River. Heh. Thought he'd be given special treatment. Didn't know the rules had changed. Didn't know he was about to share a cell with Tweener's old cellmate (was it Avocado?). Part of me feels sorry for Bellick because he is innocent, but then I remember everything he did to the prisoners and I don't feel so bad. How innocent can such a man really be? But T-Bag needs to be caught and thrown back in with Bellick. THAT would be fun to watch.
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Post by inuvik on Nov 28, 2006 14:44:51 GMT -5
I don't want to wait until January 22 to find out what happens next! Let's hope that's all it is--my TV guide this week says Feb! I loved the penetrating looks Mahone and Michael kept giving each other. Do you think Mahone is dead? One never knows... I'm just sad there was no update on Haywire. I know I'm not very wordy here today, but it was a very exciting episode. Good thing for TV news for these characters--that's the only way they all know what is going on with each other. And who was the guy with the Asian kingpin? That older guy?
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Post by hoosier on Nov 28, 2006 19:08:01 GMT -5
If Don Yun thought he had trouble before, watch out! Finally someone had the guts to stand up to him and take action. I was surprised it was Kellerman. I expected Mahone to say he had done enough. Does Don Yun have actual proof that Mahone nailed the guy he has buried in his back yard? He seems to be an exemplary FBI agent if a little on the obsessive side. I felt sorry for Mz. Wheeler. Wined and dined and smooth talked by Mr. T Bag. When we saw her after the diner, I thought she had already been done in but surprise, surprise! And the guy in the pool hall being all snotty and not willing to give him a 'hand'
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Post by shmeep on Nov 29, 2006 11:30:38 GMT -5
I nearly forgot! Here's this weeks TWoP recaplet:
Oh, Kellerman, you magnificent bastard. The disenfranchised conspiracy stooge decides that if his most recent bosses don't do right by him, he'll find someone who will. And since his most recent boss is Agent Kim -- well, that more or less drives our favorite schemer right into the exciting world of freelance evildoing. He pretends to be working with the One World Conspiracy and Mahone to help take out the now-captured Michael and Linc…then drops Mahone with a bullet and tells the boys he's all about making President Reynolds's term a short and uncomfortable one. They're now allied with him, uneasily. That should be fun once they all meet up with Dr. Sara in the spring!
Speaking of the good doctor, the most exciting thing she does this week is give herself a haircut. But after the last few days she's had, the poor girl deserves a pick-me-up. She's now on the streets with a sassy new 'do and the current impression that Michael's on his way back to the pokey.
Another short-but-sweet plotline: Sucre's plane is shot down by DEA agents. Fortunately, he manages to parachute to freedom south of the border.
Meanwhile, in another plotline: T-Bag kills his way across Kansas to get to Susan, offing one veteran for his swanky prosthetic hand and murdering a postal worker after she makes him from the Wanted poster. (She had also made him in another way, if you know what I mean. And why, why, why would women want a grimy-looking number like Theodore? Why?) After those warm-ups, he manages to find Susan via her change-of-address form, and their plot closes with him inviting himself inside.
Finally, in the dumbest plot of the week: apparently, in addition to "evolution," the powers that be in Kansas have also rejected "forensics," "DNA" and "due process." So Bellick actually plea-bargains and decides to serve his time in Fox River. As if those plot developments weren't moronic enough: apparently, the new warden has never, ever, ever considered what would happen if an ex-law enforcement officer is tossed to the general population. And now Bellick is rooming with Avocado. It will be a long hiatus for him.
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Post by mlm828 on Nov 29, 2006 18:59:01 GMT -5
Finally, in the dumbest plot of the week: apparently, in addition to "evolution," the powers that be in Kansas have also rejected "forensics," "DNA" and "due process." So Bellick actually plea-bargains and decides to serve his time in Fox River. As if those plot developments weren't moronic enough: apparently, the new warden has never, ever, ever considered what would happen if an ex-law enforcement officer is tossed to the general population. And now Bellick is rooming with Avocado. It will be a long hiatus for him. Thanks for posting the "recaplet," shmeep. I have to say "dumbest plot of the week" and "moronic" are way too kind. I'm certainly not opposed to seeing Bellick get some payback for all of the bad stuff he did at Fox River, but there's no way it would go down they way they depicted it. And it was entirely out of character for Bellick to cave in so quickly and take the deal. Now back to my favorite subject -- the conspiracy. It will definitely be an uneasy alliance between the brothers and Kellerman. What I don't remember is how much, if anything, Michael or Linc knows about Kellerman and his past actions. They'll find out if they ever meet up with Sara (I wonder how they're going to find her). I still don't think Kellerman has turned into one of the good guys. (I use the term "good guys" loosely, since all of the characters have a lot to answer for). Maybe his plan is to get the brothers to lead him to Sara and the evidence, then eliminate them and deliver the evidence to President Caroline. Is Mahone really dead? I tend to think he is, because if Kellerman wants someone dead, he usually is. If so, I will definitely miss him. Edited to add: I keep hoping T-Bag's ex, Susan, has a new boyfriend -- preferably a cop the size of a linebacker -- who was standing just out of the shot when she opened the door. On the other hand, even that might not be enough, considering the "superpowers" T-Bag seems to have, to be able to do everything he's already done.
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Post by inuvik on Jan 22, 2007 18:17:57 GMT -5
I'll give bluedelft's reminder: it's back tonight!
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Post by shmeep on Jan 23, 2007 12:55:43 GMT -5
That was so fun! I'm glad it's back on again, even if it does get a bit loopy at times.
Just for kicks, here's the TWoP recaplet of last night's episode:
So there's been a lot of buzz in the news about how the Prison Break writers are all, "So, how do we stretch this out for three, four, five years?" I have the answer for them: turn it into a road-trip show, starring Kellerman, Michael and Linc. Because the three of them in one car? Comedy gold.
Car of Comedy Gold heads to Montana to pick up Steadman, because hauling the live brother of Madame President Evil before a news organization will not only exonerate Lincoln, it'll raise all sorts of awkward questions for the current Commander in Chief. Kellerman lets slip that thanks to all sorts of backstory mumbo-jumbo, the man we all know as Steadman will not, in fact, be forensically identified as Steadman. This means two things: when the cowardly Steadman offs himself rather than face up to the consequences of his actions, Car of Comedy Gold is sort of screwed. Also, the U.S. government is apparently sitting on some earth-shaking new scientific developments if they can completely eradicate mitochondrial DNA. (I covered why mtDNA can be used to identify people even with very, very small DNA samples nearly five years ago.)
In between these delightful scenes, we learn that Agent Kim is having kittens over the fact that Mahone's not dead, Kellerman's on a revenge road trip, and Lincoln Burrows still is alive. Kim recovers by throwing Mahone's kid under a car, the better to strong-arm the agent into continuing to work for the One World Conspiracy. Mahone ostensibly agrees to play ball, but given than he's just capped Agent Von Blondie (you know, the guy hailed as a hero after killing Veronica), it's just as likely that Mahone's planning on going after the One World Conspiracy too. Perhaps he can join Car of Comedy Gold. And when we're not thrilling to the hijinks of the One World Conspiracy and their unwilling pawns, we spend a lot of time suffering through three different subplots. First up: Bellick is trying not to get killed by the same people he used to torment. This subplot confuses me, because I get the feeling I'm supposed to sympathize with Bellick, and yet I cannot help but feel that this is a case of reaping what you sow. The second subplot: C-Note's dealing with an angry brother-in-law, since nobody in the family is thrilled that Dede's gone down for aiding and abetting her fugitive husband.
Finally, the most ridiculous subplot of the night: T-Bag decides to play happy families with Susan and the kids, and it turns out a filthy, one-handed ex-con is more than capable of overpowering three people (all of whom have all their hands) and hammering the door shut while all they do is gawk. Frankly, given how well T-Bag can spin any situation to his advantage,. The Madame Evil administration would do well to track him down and hire him to figure out damage control once the Steadman story inevitably breaks.
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Post by mlm828 on Jan 23, 2007 18:21:18 GMT -5
You're right, it was fun to have PB back. A few ramblings follow.
I wonder how long Michael is going to be able to control Linc.
Michael's idea of turning himself in definitely backfired. Why would he think he could come up with a better plan than Kellerman's? If nothing else, he should know by now how fiendishly clever Kellerman is.
I am starting to find the C-Note and T-Bag story lines just a tad tiresome. I just don't care that much about what happens to C-Note. Even though Robert Knepper does a great job as T-Bag, I want someone to stop him.
Mahone's not dead! And he's thumbed his nose at Kim. So what's next? I can't really see him joining up with Kellerman and the brothers -- there's that little business of Kellerman shooting him -- but who knows?
I just knew Steadman was going to shoot himself. Did anyone else think of Marlon Condell in "Marlon's Brando"?
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Post by hoosier on Jan 24, 2007 19:18:09 GMT -5
With Steadman so entranced by the picture on the wall I thought, oh oh, here we go, what is he up to. I was rather surprised that he actually killed himself. He didn't seem the type--that is not wanting to inflict pain upon himself. I can't imagine why they didn't consider the DNA angle instead of just running out and leaving the body there.
I almost cheered when Mahone opened his trunk and there was the guy. Way to go!!!! Its nice to see Mr. Kim sweating buckets for a change. Wonder how he is going to tell the president that all he$$ has broken out?
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Post by shmeep on Jan 30, 2007 8:54:02 GMT -5
Last night's episode was fun! The message that was aired was brilliant--but unfortunately Mahone figured out the true purpose, as he always does. I'm still loving the constant battle of wits between Michael and Mahone, but with Michael teamed up with Kellerman, I think the advantage is on his side. But...why did Kellerman smile when the president called him? I think it's yet another fake out. They want us to think Kellerman is smiling because he's really working with the president and will do harm to Michael and Linc, but I think it really meant that he knows the president is scared to be calling him like that so now he has her where he wants her. Kellerman isn't stupid. He knows he knows too much and that he'll probably be killed if he goes back to her, even if he thinks he'll somehow end up back in everyone's good graces. That's my theory, anyway.
The Sucre storyline? Um...VERY familiar. I saw that coming and then was able to predict everything that happened. Did anyone else get the Jean Val Jean vibe? Here's a snippet from Les Miserables--musical version, so I don't have to quote a hundred pages (It may not be exact because this is from memory):
Bishop: Come in Sir, for you are weary And the night is cold out there Though our lives are very humble What we have we have to share There is wine here to revive you There is bread to make you strong There's a bed to rest 'til morning Rest from pain and rest from wrong
Val Jean: He let me eat my fill, I had the Lion's share The silver in my hand cost twice what I had earned In all those nineteen years, a lifetime of despair And yet he trusted me. The old fool trusted me, he'd done his bit of good I played the grateful serf and thanked him like I should But when the house was still I got up in the night Took the silver, took my flight!
Police: Tell his reverence your story Let us see if he's impressed You were lodging here last night You were the honest Bishop's guest And then out of Christian goodness When he learned about your plight You maintain he made a present Of this silver
Bishop: That is right. But my friend you left so early Surely something slipped your mind You forgot I gave these also Would you leave the best behind So Monsieurs you may release him For this man has spoken true I commend you for your duty And God's blessing go with you
(alone with Val Jean) But remember this my brother See in this some higher plan You must use this precious silver To become an honest man By the witness of the martyrs By the passion and the blood God has raised you out of darkness I have bought your soul for God
Gee...do you think they could have beat us over the head any harder with Sucre's story? Still...there was something very satisfying about seeing it played out. Looks like Sucre is in for a huge life change.
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Post by mlm828 on Jan 30, 2007 17:07:37 GMT -5
Last night's episode was fun! The message that was aired was brilliant--but unfortunately Mahone figured out the true purpose, as he always does. I'm still loving the constant battle of wits between Michael and Mahone, but with Michael teamed up with Kellerman, I think the advantage is on his side. But...why did Kellerman smile when the president called him? I think it's yet another fake out. They want us to think Kellerman is smiling because he's really working with the president and will do harm to Michael and Linc, but I think it really meant that he knows the president is scared to be calling him like that so now he has her where he wants her. Kellerman isn't stupid. He knows he knows too much and that he'll probably be killed if he goes back to her, even if he thinks he'll somehow end up back in everyone's good graces. That's my theory, anyway. The Sucre storyline? Um...VERY familiar. I saw that coming and then was able to predict everything that happened. Did anyone else get the Jean Val Jean vibe? Yes, it was fun! About the message -- I especially liked the little flashback with Kellerman instructing the brothers on putting misdirection into their body language, so the FBI would misinterpret it. But Mahone figured it out, of course. I'm not sure what's going on with Kellerman's phone call, ostensibly from the President. I'm sure we're meant to think it was Caroline, and Steadman's jibe last week about Kellerman's crush on her was intended to make us think Kellerman would come back into the fold the instant she beckoned. But I, too, think something else is going on. Maybe the Prez is in danger herself from the Company, as the scene with the mysterious bad guy implied. Someone on the TWoP board suggested another possibility: maybe the President didn't call Kellerman it all. Kim could have spliced together the President's end from recordings and made the call himself, hoping to turn Kellerman. Oh, Sucre, Sucre, is Mariflooze really worth it? I bet she won't even be in Ixtapa when he gets there. I loved the old man, though. What a wonderful actor.
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