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Post by maggiethecat on Nov 25, 2005 11:50:16 GMT -5
All I can say is that Matt needs to start listening to someone or something other than little Matt. That boy is heading for a world of trouble! Either that or the writers need to stop torturing the kid! His first high school crush ditches hom for another girl, then he gets involved with a glamorous and manipulative older woman who turns out to be a transsexual loonie bird . . . and now apparently he's hooked up with the Crown Princess of the Aryan Nation. YIKES! (Can someone please tell me why the little dish-faced blonde playing the girlfriend looks so familiar? I swear I've seen her in something else.) So, its this because Matt is so vulnerable that he thinks these people's family life is somehow all-American and normal (and therefore not like his), or is it just the sex? It really is a frustrating plot line, isn't it? And I do wish he'd lose the skinhead look -- it really is creeping me out! |
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Post by housemouse on Nov 25, 2005 12:00:33 GMT -5
I think the little nazi played the lead in American Dreams. I am not positive.
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Post by maggiethecat on Nov 30, 2005 10:55:00 GMT -5
After last night's episode, I have to say I'm a little worried about the writers of this show. Either they're creeeeepy and strange and issue-ridden -- or they work it all out on the characters and, as a result, are sunny and normal and peppy and go around whistling.
The "eeeeuuuw" factor is approaching nuclear blast level. Matt and Little Eva (as in Braun), Quentin's omnisexual tendencies, Sean's annoying pigheadedness . . . and after Christian's disturbing cruelty towards Poor Abby, I was beginning to wonder if maybe he was The Carver?
Then the preview of next week's episode came on. (Spoiler alert if you taped/Tivo'ed last night and haven't watched it yet.) Christian's bride didn't leave him at the altar after all, but was abducted by The Carver. So . . . does this mean that the last sunny smile we saw from her in the mirror was for . . . The Carver? This means it's someone she knows and likes?
And what's with the big airplane crash next week? Is this a trend?! E. R. did an airplane crash last week!
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Post by housemouse on Dec 2, 2005 8:45:48 GMT -5
After last night's episode, I have to say I'm a little worried about the writers of this show. Either they're creeeeepy and strange and issue-ridden -- or they work it all out on the characters and, as a result, are sunny and normal and peppy and go around whistling. The "eeeeuuuw" factor is approaching nuclear blast level. Matt and Little Eva (as in Braun), Quentin's omnisexual tendencies, Sean's annoying pigheadedness . . . and after Christian's disturbing cruelty towards Poor Abby, I was beginning to wonder if maybe he was The Carver? Then the preview of next week's episode came on. ( Spoiler alert if you taped/Tivo'ed last night and haven't watched it yet.) Christian's bride didn't leave him at the altar after all, but was abducted by The Carver. So . . . does this mean that the last sunny smile we saw from her in the mirror was for . . . The Carver? This means it's someone she knows and likes? And what's with the big airplane crash next week? Is this a trend?! E. R. did an airplane crash last week! Oh my, what an episode. I am right there with you about the writers. At this point they seem to be trying very hard to creep us all out. I read a magazine review of the show and the writer guessed that Quentin might be The Carver. I am starting to think that might be right. I am also wondering if it might be someone from Eva's family. Who knows, maybe the creepy skinheads take turns doing the slashing. Matt, Matt, Matt, I'll say it again - he needs to listen to something other than Little Matt. All that being said, I am looking forward to next week's episode. |
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Post by maggiethecat on Dec 7, 2005 14:29:35 GMT -5
Hmmm. Maybe the writers decided to cut us some slack this week -- not that a graphic airplane crash is what I'd call slack. But at least last night's episode was grim, grim, grim, instead of grim and creepy. It was, however, bloody and I did have to gulp hard and look away a few times. Sean's character seems to be in for a bit of redemption; I was quite liking him again by the end of the hour. And could there have been anything more satisfyingly written than the way Julia gave Quentin his walking papers? As for ending -- the last thirty seconds -- I won't be any kind of spoiler until we're all caught up. I will just say WOW.  |
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Post by doobrah on Dec 12, 2005 13:17:39 GMT -5
I gotta say that I didn't expect what happened after Julia's monologue, but did see the pillow coming. And you just KNEW what she was going to find when she got home. Still a delicious moment of melodrama.
After seeing the promo of the Carver and his Web site, I'm thinking it's gotta be Quentin, based on the speech pattern and the train wreck that he's become.
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Post by maggiethecat on Dec 12, 2005 14:24:16 GMT -5
After seeing the promo of the Carver and his Web site, I'm thinking it's gotta be Quentin, based on the speech pattern and the train wreck that he's become. Yeah, I'm thinking it might be Quentin, too, but if it is, what a cheat.  Correct me if I've got this wrong, but the Carver was active last season, and Quentin wasn't even on the scene until this season. So that is serious cheating, right? I was actually hoping it might be Matt, so they'd write him off and we wouldn't have to listen to any more of his teen angst, or live through his Nazi girlfriend!
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Post by housemouse on Dec 12, 2005 20:01:58 GMT -5
After seeing the promo of the Carver and his Web site, I'm thinking it's gotta be Quentin, based on the speech pattern and the train wreck that he's become. Yeah, I'm thinking it might be Quentin, too, but if it is, what a cheat. Correct me if I've got this wrong, but the Carver was active last season, and Quentin wasn't even on the scene until this season. So that is serious cheating, right? I was actually hoping it might be Matt, so they'd write him off and we wouldn't have to listen to any more of his teen angst, or live through his Nazi girlfriend! I'm pretty sure Quentin was at least a peripheral character at one point. I agree, Quentin MUST be The Carver! I finished off last week's episode and man oh man. What I want to know is whether the tail end was real or a figment of Julia's imagination. |
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Post by doobrah on Dec 20, 2005 20:27:51 GMT -5
OK, tonight's the night when the reveal the Carver. It's a double episode and the reveal is supposed to be at the very end. Is it Quentin? Gina? www.myspace.com/thecarver |
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Post by housemouse on Dec 21, 2005 1:40:36 GMT -5
AHHHHH!!!! Maggie, Doobrah, have you watched the season finale? Are you ready to talk? I will not put any spoilers here until you both have checked in. Then we MUST talk!
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Post by doobrah on Dec 21, 2005 9:44:23 GMT -5
There's a reason (well, actually two) I don't like slasher movies. It's gore instead of a plot, and the gratuitous cruelty just leaves me cold.
That said, I was thoroughly disappointed in the season finale of Nip/Tuck. After the initial horror of slashed faces early in the season, I was completely oblivious to them by the end of last night. That's bad.
Instead of tying up loose ends methodically throughout the season, they decide to throw in everything in the end, in a manner that seemed to be inspired by LSD.
And Julia seems to have conVENiently forgotten that she murdered a plane crash survivor who she mistook for dear old mom.
Ever heard of PTSD? You'd think that all the protagonists would be so messed up at the end they'd all be in therapy. But no, they're gathered for a convivial dinner together. How quaint.
Too over the top, too much gratuitious cruelty and too much of everything for my taste.
So....what are they going to do next year? Have Matt and Miss Peck get married?
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Post by maggiethecat on Dec 21, 2005 11:11:38 GMT -5
Hmmm. I guess I liked it better than you did, Doobrah, but there are a lot of loose ends that seem to have been tied up quickly, or simply dropped. Like Julia putting the pillow over that woman's face. Here's what I want to know. Did Cherry really shoot Nazi Dad at the end, or fire the gun near his head just to scare the bejeepers out of him? And if Matt really did do the deed with the box cutter . . . uh, did he take her to the ER to get stitched up? Or just leave the poor kid by the side of the road so he could have a nice pasta dinner with the folks? Big loose end. I had pretty much decided that Quentin was going to be The Carver, but the reasoning behind it was pretty wild! I must say I didn't see the Kit connection coming until the end, when she was giving Quentin's backstory. I did find myself thinking, "I'll bet she is Violet, and Violet's not really dead." So I suppose this means they'll be baaaaaaaaaack next season? Oi. Best work last night? Christian. So sweet with poor messed-up Kimber. His character has been growing on me all season, despite some really nasty backsliding (like putting the bag over that poor girl's head. Eeeuuw.) But what's up with Julia and the baby, huh? Last season, when she had no career to speak of, she was quietly relieved that she'd had a miscarriage. And now, when she's all of a sudden this big hotsy-totsy spa owner, she's gone all maternal and is determined to go through what is clearly a "troubled" pregancy? Joely Richardson does make the character's inconsistencies seem believable, but still . . . What are they going to do next season? Who knows?! They really seem to specialize in going as far out on a limb as they can. And I wouldn't miss a minute of it.  |
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Post by housemouse on Dec 21, 2005 18:27:50 GMT -5
I too liked it better than Doobrah. It was bizarre, it was inconsistent, there are lots of lose ends, etc. But I could not look away.
In addition to all of your questions Maggie, I wonder what will become of Kyt and Quentin. Will Sean and Christian pursue them next season? What is the deal with the baby? CVS is the earlies test in pregnancy to find chromosomal abnormalities, so what is it? Will they have her wanting to terminate the pregnancy? Will she be destined to miscarry? Will she and Shawn keep it together?
Toward the end of Kyt's story, I was guessing she was Violet, but then I dismissed the idea, the actual end shocked me.
I always saw Julia's killing the woman she thought was her mom as more of euthanasia than anything else. That leads me to another questions - was that her mom in her apartment, or just an illusion?
So many questions. I am horrified, but you bet I will keep watching!
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Post by doobrah on Dec 22, 2005 18:02:50 GMT -5
I always saw Julia's killing the woman she thought was her mom as more of euthanasia than anything else. That leads me to another questions - was that her mom in her apartment, or just an illusion? Julia was only able to love her mother after she thought she was dead. She gave that long monologue to her "supposed" body to release the whole co-dependent morass that was their relationship. But when she finished and had come to closure with it, she was stunned when her mother gasped back to life. It was too much for her to handle after laying their co-dependency to rest, and she smothered her. Later, when returning to her apartment, with Sean and Christian AND Julia believing Erica to be dead, we are all shocked to see that she is, in fact, alive. She decided not to take the earlier plane. So Julia murdered someone who looked like Erica, but was not. |
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Post by housemouse on Dec 22, 2005 18:23:16 GMT -5
I always saw Julia's killing the woman she thought was her mom as more of euthanasia than anything else. That leads me to another question - was that her mom in her apartment, or just an illusion? Julia was only able to love her mother after she thought she was dead. She gave that long monologue to her "supposed" body to release the whole co-dependent morass that was their relationship. But when she finished and had come to closure with it, she was stunned when her mother gasped back to life. It was too much for her to handle after laying their co-dependency to rest, and she smothered her. Later, when returning to her apartment, with Sean and Christian AND Julia believing Erica to be dead, we are all shocked to see that she is, in fact, alive. She decided not to take the earlier plane. So Julia murdered someone who looked like Erica, but was not. So you think her mother is really alive? See I wondered if the woman she killed really was her mom and when she returned to her apartment the mom she was speaking to was just a figment of her imagination. Know what I mean? It was a little disconcerting that the airline crash story line from the previous week was just left hanging. |
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