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Post by rducasey on Apr 30, 2006 21:48:48 GMT -5
Do you ever wonder why the perp in the cell, "Hey blond dude" knows Jim because he was "All over the news" "You a cel-e-brit-y", but yet, so many people don't know him. Ty Largent, "you're blind" "Am I being punked?", Kim Chenowith "AAAHHHHHH....like totally". (well Kim we can excuse since she probably does not watch the news.), Debbie Diament had no clue that she was selling to the only blind cop in the city?? Pete Steckle- "You're a blind cop??" Ethan Archer, "I didn't know you could be a cop if you were blind." Don Yun "You been blind your whole life?" Bo Mathison, "You born blind?" Leonard Mattis- "How'd you lose your eyes, Dunbar?"
Let's give Randy Lymon credit, he did follow the news. "I've been reading about you." Are there any other examples of uninformed people in NYC?
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Post by mlm828 on Apr 30, 2006 22:02:12 GMT -5
Good point! Yes, I wondered about that, too. Especially Ty Largent, since he's a golf buddy of the Deputy Mayor, and Jim got his job back by putting political pressure on the Mayor in an election year.
The other people who seemed oddly uninformed were those at Clay's party (in "Four Feet Under"). Even if we assume they were all fashionistas, Jim had been all over the news recently. In such a group, I'd think there would be some people who would be fawning over him simply because he had been in the news and was a "celebrity." Maybe he was no longer of interest, because his "15 minutes of fame" were over, and he was "yesterday's news." Or maybe they were just too uncomfortable with the idea of talking to a blind guy.
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Post by hoosier on May 3, 2006 17:01:10 GMT -5
Don Yun in Seoul Man didn't actually say anything when he noticed Jim was blind, just looked at Marty questioningly. It was Marty who said, "Yep, blind as a bat". Thats our Marty, Mr. Subtle!
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Post by rducasey on May 3, 2006 18:29:46 GMT -5
Don Yun in Seoul Man didn't actually say anything when he noticed Jim was blind, just looked at Marty questioningly. It was Marty who said, "Yep, blind as a bat". Thats our Marty, Mr. Subtle! Yes, true, but when they went into the interview room , he asked Jim, "You been blind your whole life?" and Jim said "A year", at which point Don went into his three legged dog story. " it's a compliment, I love that dog, man."
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Post by Dreamfire on May 3, 2006 19:57:13 GMT -5
The other people who seemed oddly uninformed were those at Clay's party (in "Four Feet Under"). Even if we assume they were all fashionistas, Jim had been all over the news recently. In such a group, I'd think there would be some people who would be fawning over him simply because he had been in the news and was a "celebrity." Maybe he was no longer of interest, because his "15 minutes of fame" were over, and he was "yesterday's news." Or maybe they were just too uncomfortable with the idea of talking to a blind guy. I agree with you mlm88, and further I believe that Clay deserved to have his arm ripped off just for being such a bad host. In fact I would be happy to do it, as long as he dies and the Detective Dunbar was in charge of collaring me! I mean How can you watch one of your guests stand for at least 10 minutes in the dark, next to a wall just hanging there? A good host would notice ANY guest ( let alone someone who he must know is still working through comming to terms with losing his sight) and not leave them to feel so isolated and alone. Plus it is also rude to carry on whispered conversations at a table if the person right next to the one you are whispering to is not in coversation. Is this guy a Social Moron or what? I reckon that Jim had a very good point and I DO think Clay was flirting with Christie and I do think it was partly because the thinks "Jim can't see it or do anything about it". Having said that I think Christie has a point about Jim ruining any chance to network with her Boss. These two are not great at finding a compromise both are happy with are they? Anyhow to get onto MLM88's actual point How come no one at the party wanted to talk to Jim? All your points seem valid, it was one thing I just kind of tried to ignore, not thinking that maybe his 15 mins of fame were over or that people would be uncomfortable. I guess I would have expected people to be sensitive and to at least try to chat? Also he is a good looking man no ,atter what so I woud expect the girls to at least be attracted enough for a chat? Then again maybe Jim was on such high "anti-Clay" alert he may have snubbed anyone who tried to talk so he could aurally follow Chirstie around the room and make sure she did not flirt? I think his outburst when they got home shows he is prone to jealousy and thinks she is as likely to stray as he was. I LOVED her line " Just because you could not stay faithful, doesn't mean I can't." Hm, off the point again - ( I have to admit I have not been jumping into the Christie discussion because I have so many thoughts on it and it seems youguys are a bit over it. ) Anyhow, a question, how long onto Jim's return to work is this episode? If it has beena few months it is likely to be "old news" and forgotten. Rambling rose, Natascha
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Post by Dreamfire on May 3, 2006 19:58:45 GMT -5
Do you ever wonder why the perp in the cell, " Hey blond dude"? I thought he said "Hey blinddDude."
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Post by rducasey on May 3, 2006 20:04:45 GMT -5
Do you ever wonder why the perp in the cell, " Hey blond dude"? I thought he said "Hey blinddDude." Oh, Natascha, that is an old joke with me, since for the first 50 times I watched the Pilot, I thought he said "Hey Blond dude" and I still won't admit that it is "blind dude". So to me he will always be the "blond dude". (If you listen real close, it sounds like blond dude, hahaha)
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Post by Dreamfire on May 3, 2006 20:15:17 GMT -5
I thought he said "Hey blinddDude." Oh, Natascha, that is an old joke with me, since for the first 50 times I watched the Pilot, I thought he said "Hey Blond dude" and I still won't admit that it is "blind dude". So to me he will always be the "blond dude". (If you listen real close, it sounds like blond dude, hahaha) Thanks for updateing me, I was about to go and rewatch to see if I misheard - oh well might anyhow@!11 ;D
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Post by mlm828 on May 3, 2006 21:16:58 GMT -5
I believe that Clay deserved to have his arm ripped off just for being such a bad host. In fact I would be happy to do it, as long as he dies and the Detective Dunbar was in charge of collaring me! I mean How can you watch one of your guests stand for at least 10 minutes in the dark, next to a wall just hanging there? A good host would notice ANY guest ( let alone someone who he must know is still working through comming to terms with losing his sight) and not leave them to feel so isolated and alone. Plus it is also rude to carry on whispered conversations at a table if the person right next to the one you are whispering to is not in coversation. Is this guy a Social Moron or what? Absolutely right -- on all points! I have to admit I have not been jumping into the Christie discussion because I have so many thoughts on it and it seems you guys are a bit over it. Please jump right in -- don't let that stop you! Anyhow, a question, how long onto Jim's return to work is this episode? If it has been a few months it is likely to be "old news" and forgotten. I think it's a fairly short time after his return to work -- it's only the second episode. The only timeline we have is given at the beginning of "Dance With Me," the eleventh episode, when Tom comments that Jim has been working there for four months. If the whole series takes place over four or five months, then the second episode must have taken place a relatively short time after the first.
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Post by greenbeing on May 3, 2006 23:29:55 GMT -5
Do you ever wonder... just who the Kessle brothers were? Bud Kessle, Sonny's cousin, and then there's these embroidery guys... --GB
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Post by Kasman on Sept 1, 2006 16:56:19 GMT -5
Do you ever wonder why they didn't do more with the martial arts stuff we glimpsed ever so briefly in the pilot?
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Post by rducasey on Sept 3, 2006 10:09:14 GMT -5
Do you ever wonder why they didn't do more with the martial arts stuff we glimpsed ever so briefly in the pilot? In an interview with Lynn Manning, an actor and a writer, who was hired as a consultant on Blind Justice, and had himself been blinded by a gunshot in a bar, he said: "Early in the first episode of Blind Justice, Jim Dunbar is seen sparring judo style, but so far the producers have not further explored this aspect of his character. " Manning hoped they would as he believed Judo is an ideal martial art for the blind to study because it is a "grappling" form of Martial art. According to Manning, this means that judo is more similar to wrestling than it is to karate, which involves kicking and hitting an opponent, and therefore, Manning asserts, is a superior form of defense because it allows one to take direct control of an opponent's body. I wonder too, if we had ever had a second season, if this would have been explored more with the character of Jim Dunbar. Mouse I remember you having a conversation with Ron that involved martial arts back in March. Did he give any insight into what form of Martial Arts he was trained in? I never really thought about judo being more like wrestling and possibly easier for a blind person to excell in. I guess it all seemed the same to me, Karate, judo. etc...
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Post by Kasman on Sept 4, 2006 4:44:44 GMT -5
Looks like Judo to me - my son studied it for a short while in his early teens.
It strikes me as a total waste that here they are showing what he can do so early on and yet they never made any use of it. *shrugs*
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Post by Kasman on Sept 4, 2006 4:50:34 GMT -5
Do you ever wonder... just who the Kessle brothers were? Bud Kessle, Sonny's cousin, and then there's these embroidery guys... --GB Sounds like an in-joke to me. ;D
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Post by maggiethecat on Sept 4, 2006 9:48:57 GMT -5
It strikes me as a total waste that here they are showing what he can do so early on and yet they never made any use of it. I always thought of that brief sequence as being there purely to establish information about the character in the first five minutes: he has stress-related nightmares, he's self-sufficient in that he gets up and makes coffee, he keeps in shape physically, etc., etc., etc. Part of setting up the character with some interesting quick visuals, not to mention a little eye-candy.
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