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Post by mlm828 on Aug 1, 2005 17:40:49 GMT -5
I did not notice his powers getting stronger. I do think that his trips with Dumbledore in the penseive and to get the horcrux increased his confidence. Increased confidence may lead to increased powers. Dumbledore putting so much trust in Harry has got to be helping him get stronger and stronger. Another thing that may lead to increased powers is Harry's realization, at the end of Book 6, that his protectors are gone, and he is on his own. Sometimes, when you realize you have to do something yourself, you find yourself doing things you never believed you could do.
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Post by shmeep on Aug 24, 2005 11:35:01 GMT -5
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Post by mlm828 on Aug 26, 2005 18:20:00 GMT -5
There are a lot of interesting theories there -- too many to take in with just one reading. The author raises one question which I've been asking myself, too: How in the world can Harry, a 17-year-old wizard (at the time of the next book), possibly succeed in finding and destroying all the horcruxes, then Voldemort? Dumbledore sustained a life-threatening injury destroying the horcrux in the ring, and could not have obtained the locket without Harry's help. (Of course the locket wasn't a horcrux, but it was protected as if it were one). One answer is that Harry may not succeed and survive. Rowling has never promised Harry will survive. If Harry does survive, I can only guess that the power Voldemort "knows not" will play a big role in his survival. This point has been made so many times in the books that I have to believe it will again play a role if Harry survives. There is a fascinating hint at the end of HBP. Harry says he is going to visit "Godric's Hollow" and his parents' graves. I wonder if he will find or learn something significant there.
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Post by mlm828 on Jun 11, 2006 17:15:26 GMT -5
I have been re-reading HPB, in part to look for little facts whose significance might not have been apparent when I first read it.
One of the things we've discussed here before is whether "R.A.B." (who found the locket) is Sirius's brother Regulus. I just noticed that in chapter 6 of HPB, Mrs. Weasley mentions that Regulus managed to survive only a few days after deciding to desert the Death Eaters. His note in the substitute locket indicates he knew his time was limited. Did he have enough time to destroy the real horcrux before he was killed? If not, was it hidden at 12 Grimmauld Place, where Kreacher or Mundungus might have found it? And was it in fact found in OOP, when they were house-cleaning?
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Post by shmeep on Jun 19, 2006 9:32:30 GMT -5
I just noticed that in chapter 6 of HPB, Mrs. Weasley mentions that Regulus managed to survive only a few days after deciding to desert the Death Eaters. His note in the substitute locket indicates he knew his time was limited. Did he have enough time to destroy the real horcrux before he was killed? If not, was it hidden at 12 Grimmauld Place, where Kreacher or Mundungus might have found it? And was it in fact found in OOP, when they were house-cleaning? Remember when Kreacher was trying to rescue all the items the others were trying to throw out? One of them was a large locket they couldn't open. I have my suspicions about that. I just started to read the series from the beginning for the first time since reading HBP and I find it all very interesting, knowing what I know now. For one thing, I'm looking extra hard at Snape and trying to find proof of his allegiance either way. I still maintain that he had no choice but to kill Dumbledore because he couldn't risk blowing his cover (just as Harry had to continue forcing Dumbledore to drink in the cave even if it killed him). Dumbledore made it clear to Harry in that scene that his (Harry's) life was much more important than Dumbledore's and his instructions were clear and Harry had to follow through even if Dumbledore ended up dead. Isn't it possible he had given Snape similar instructions? I can't wait to see how she ties all that up! I'm currently on CoS. I remember reading that book 2 had a lot of themes that tied in with book 6 so now I'm having fun discovering them. I love the whole scene when Harry accidentally ends up in that Dark Wizard shop in Knockturn alley. Notice that he hides in a cabinet? Turns out to be a very significant cabinet later on! And the items mentioned--the hand of glory and that evil opal necklace--both make appearances later on as well. I love how no detail is wasted and any tiny thing could have tremendous significance. And I love all the plays on words. Diagon Alley=diagonally. Knockturn Alley=nocturnally. Even something like Privet Drive sounds a bit like private life.
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Post by inuvik on Jun 19, 2006 12:19:48 GMT -5
And I love all the plays on words. Diagon Alley=diagonally. Knockturn Alley=nocturnally. Even something like Privet Drive sounds a bit like private life. I never noticed that before. Very clever wordplay!
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Post by mlm828 on Jun 19, 2006 12:35:50 GMT -5
And I love all the plays on words. Diagon Alley=diagonally. Knockturn Alley=nocturnally. Even something like Privet Drive sounds a bit like private life. So many of the names seem to have been carefully devised, not only as a play on words but also to have significance. Another similar one is Grimmauld Place = "grim old place." There is also Voldemort -- "vol de mort" or "fly from death."
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Post by mlm828 on Jun 19, 2006 12:58:47 GMT -5
Remember when Kreacher was trying to rescue all the items the others were trying to throw out? One of them was a large locket they couldn't open. I have my suspicions about that. Me, too.
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Post by mlm828 on Jul 28, 2009 23:32:43 GMT -5
So -- has anyone else seen the Half Blood Prince movie? I finally saw it this evening and have some comments. Warning: spoilers will follow, so if you haven't seen the movie yet, read at your own risk!Frankly, I found the movie disappointing. The book had a lot of emotion in it -- the Ron, Hermione, and Lavender triangle, Harry falling for Ginny, Dumbledore's death, the Wizarding World under siege from Voldemort and the Death Eaters, Harry's obsession with what Malfoy was up to and everyone dismissing it. The movie, on the other hand, just seemed, well, flat. About the only part which didn't seem emotionally flat was Dumbledore's death. It also seemed kind of disjointed, jumping from scene to scene. I doubt I would have known what was going on at times, if I hadn't read the book. And there were some continuity problems, too. For example, at the end, Ron, Hermione and Harry are talking about the Horcruxes, but nowhere in the movie do we see Harry explain what they are to the other two, nor do we see Dumbledore telling Harry it's OK to tell Ron and Hermione. The beginning also was all wrong. Voldemort and the Death Eaters are after Harry, and he's wandering around London on his own? I realize everything from the books can't be in the movies. To do that, there would have to be at least two movies for every book, and the young actors would be in their forties before the series was ever finished. But I think the choices of what to leave in and what to leave out of this movie were questionable. And the stuff that was added or changed from the book didn't make up for the omissions. For example, the attack on the Burrow really didn't add anything. If the intent of that scene was to show the Wizarding World under attack, I think that could have been done more effectively by including the first chapter from the book, where Fudge goes to see the Muggle Prime Minister. And what was the point in changing the events leading up to Dumbledore's death and leaving out the battle with the Death Eaters? If anyone else has seen the movie, please chime in!
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