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Post by mlm828 on May 4, 2008 1:05:27 GMT -5
It's week nine of the re-watch, time for "In Your Face." The Tuxhorns fake Jerry's murder to collect the insurance money, Jim plays chess (sort of), Jim and Karen visit the library, Karen is still mad at Jim, and now so is Christie, Marty, Tom and Fisk practice miming, Nick finally proves he's a loser, Marty has an epiphany, and Jim stops to listen to "Moon River."  |
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Post by Colorado girl on May 4, 2008 19:10:13 GMT -5
Several things I like about this episode....Todd Moncrief...played so perfectly slimey...I repeat the words so often in my head..."Are you happy now?" and I hear him every time I think of it....  I also loved the smugness of the librarian..I don't know why but I do....  I also loved the backside of Jim in that scene!!! So tall...mmmm...Unfortunately I could not find a picture!(darn!) I loved the way Karen finally made up with Jim admitting that she was worried about how he would see her  and the wheat grass moment...How it seemed that finally Jim would be accepted as one of the guys.  |
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Post by mlm828 on May 4, 2008 20:14:18 GMT -5
I also loved the smugness of the librarian..I don't know why but I do....I also loved the backside of Jim in that scene!!! So tall...mmmm...Unfortunately I could not find a picture!(darn!) How about this one?  And this one?  |
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Post by Katryna on May 5, 2008 4:18:25 GMT -5
I also loved the smugness of the librarian..I don't know why but I do....I also loved the backside of Jim in that scene!!! So tall...mmmm...Unfortunately I could not find a picture!(darn!) I like this one. Welcome to the "shallow" end of the pool, Lindy!  |
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Post by Colorado girl on May 5, 2008 22:02:35 GMT -5
I like this one. Welcome to the "shallow" end of the pool, Lindy! Yes, the shallow end of the pool is really fine and thanks for the picture! |
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Post by mlm828 on May 6, 2008 0:20:34 GMT -5
The part of “In Your Face” that I like best is the whole Jim-Karen imbroglio. It picks up right where it left off in “Past Imperfect,” when Jim decides to stay at the crime scene instead of canvassing with Karen.  What’s up with that? Does he think she’s going to abandon him somewhere, as she did at the shooting scene in “Past Imperfect”? It probably didn’t inspire confidence when she gave him the silent treatment when he tried to talk to her in the elevator.  In any event, he’s not taking any chances and refuses her offer of help finding the chess boards in the park, insisting it’s “easy.”  It reminds me of the scene in “Seoul Man,” where he says he’s going to use his cane instead of being guided by Karen. In both instances, he’s trying to assert his independence, but for different reasons. Being on the outs with Karen does have an upside, however, as it provides an opportunity for some male bonding with Marty and Tom, when Jim tells them “combat pay” isn’t enough.  It also gives Marty and Tom a chance to use their miming skills.   I always get a laugh from Jim’s exasperated head shake at the end of their conference with Fisk, when Karen refuses to speak to him.  Then there’s their tête à tête in the locker room. Yeah, that worked out well.   Karen definitely seems to know what she’s talking about when she tells the squad that women shoot men all the time. Note the approving look from the female officer who just happens to be passing by. Too bad Jim can’t see it.  The conflict simmers down a bit on the second day of the episode, when they are more focused on their efforts to solve the case, although Karen still cops an attitude when Jim explains his theory.  Karen finally relents and accepts Jim’s apology, after Nick proves what a loser he is, and she admits it wasn’t all about Jim messing it up. She has a bad history picking guys, and Jim knowing about Nick just made it worse. My favorite moment of the episode, however, has nothing to do with Jim and Karen. It’s Marty’s little epiphany as Jim leaves the sports bar and Tom asks, “Can you imagine that?” Marty’s one-word reply, “No,” and the look on his face say it all.  |
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Post by hoosier on May 6, 2008 18:40:42 GMT -5
I wonder why they didn't pick up on the slip of the tongue made by Joan Tuxhorn. Earlier she told them that the only secret her husband had ever kept from her was that he had lost his job, but later, she says that when Jerry lost his job they had learned that nothing in life was secure. Huh? Better review your notes, Karen!
Also, after they found that "Jerry" had been cremated, Jim complained that there was not enough trace evidence since Joan had had a cleaning crew "scouring" the apartment. The cleaners were there when Jim and Karen were questioning Joan so if they hadn't finished gathering all the evidence why didn't they stop them?
Though it lasted only a few seconds, I liked the scene where Jim is using the bill reader. Too bad they didn't show more of his use of adaptive technology.
Did anyone else notice that Jim's lips did not move when he asked Karen if the book he had found was from the library? There seemed to be a whacked out feel to that part, I don't know why.
I wonder why Jim decided to accept Tom and Marty's invitation since he had declined to go bowling. Did he feel the need to commiserate (thank goodness he didn't elaborate about the problems he and Karen had been having!), because he didn't want to face the cold shoulder at home, or did he genuinely take this as an opportunity to learn something about his co-workers outside of the job? Be just one of the guys? I think the latter.
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Post by rducasey on May 6, 2008 19:46:25 GMT -5
Also, after they found that "Jerry" had been cremated, Jim complained that there was not enough trace evidence since Joan had had a cleaning crew "scouring" the apartment. The cleaners were there when Jim and Karen were questioning Joan so if they hadn't finished gathering all the evidence why didn't they stop them? Oh dear, this just bothers me so much about this episode....just really poorly done. A cleaning crew in the house the very day that the murder happened and right under the noses of the detectives! ( I'd like to know how she got a cleaning crew to come so fast. I called to get my rugs shampooed a few months back, and I had to wait two weeks. ) That line about "nothing in this life is guaranteed"...I do always notice that Jim nods at that as if to say "you're not kidding".... |
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Post by mlm828 on May 6, 2008 21:38:16 GMT -5
I wonder why they didn't pick up on the slip of the tongue made by Joan Tuxhorn. Earlier she told them that the only secret her husband had ever kept from her was that he had lost his job, but later, she says that when Jerry lost his job they had learned that nothing in life was secure. Huh? Better review your notes, Karen! I had the impression they took out the life insurance policy fairly recently, after Joan learned about Jerry losing his job. But I could be mistaken. Doesn't someone mention when they took out the policy? Also, after they found that "Jerry" had been cremated, Jim complained that there was not enough trace evidence since Joan had had a cleaning crew "scouring" the apartment. The cleaners were there when Jim and Karen were questioning Joan so if they hadn't finished gathering all the evidence why didn't they stop them? Oh dear, this just bothers me so much about this episode....just really poorly done. A cleaning crew in the house the very day that the murder happened and right under the noses of the detectives! ( I'd like to know how she got a cleaning crew to come so fast. I called to get my rugs shampooed a few months back, and I had to wait two weeks.) I can actually answer part of this, because I was just reading testimony from a homicide detective about how they "process" a scene and how long it takes. When the first cops arrive, they secure the scene by putting up that yellow crime scene tape and keeping everyone out who's not supposed to be there. Then they collect physical evidence, take photos, and so forth. When they're done, the scene is "released," meaning they take down the tape, the cops leave, and people are allowed back in. In the case I was reading today, the shooting happened at 8:30 p.m., and the scene was "released" at 3 a.m. So it's possible they could have finished their work at the Tuxhorn apartment in a matter of hours and "released" the scene the same day. But it still seemed very fast. And rducasey is absolutely right: how did Joan get the cleaning crew there so fast? Maybe the same way she got that poor guy's body cremated so fast? Or did she have them lined up in advance as part of the plan? That line about "nothing in this life is guaranteed"...I do always notice that Jim nods at that as if to say "you're not kidding".... I always notice that, too! I wonder why Jim decided to accept Tom and Marty's invitation since he had declined to go bowling. Did he feel the need to commiserate (thank goodness he didn't elaborate about the problems he and Karen had been having!), because he didn't want to face the cold shoulder at home, or did he genuinely take this as an opportunity to learn something about his co-workers outside of the job? Be just one of the guys? I think the latter. I think the latter, too. As to why he didn't accept the invitation to go bowling at the end of "Up on the Roof," I think there were a couple of reasons. Things were very different at that time. He was still very much the outsider, and was still at odds with Marty. He may have believed the invitation was not sincere. I know I didn't think it was sincere. And after what had happened with Terry that day, I'm sure socializing was the last thing Jim wanted to do. Incidentally, the homicide detective I mentioned above also described her work at the crime scene. In this case, her job was to go over the crime scene with an evidence tech, doing things such as looking for and collecting physical evidence, taking measurements, and drawing diagrams. It occurred to me when reading the testimony that Jim Dunbar couldn't do any of these things. |
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Post by inuvik on May 7, 2008 11:04:07 GMT -5
I wonder why Jim decided to accept Tom and Marty's invitation since he had declined to go bowling. Did he feel the need to commiserate (thank goodness he didn't elaborate about the problems he and Karen had been having!), because he didn't want to face the cold shoulder at home, or did he genuinely take this as an opportunity to learn something about his co-workers outside of the job? Be just one of the guys? I think the latter. I think the latter, too. As to why he didn't accept the invitation to go bowling at the end of "Up on the Roof," I think there were a couple of reasons. Things were very different at that time. He was still very much the outsider, and was still at odds with Marty. He may have believed the invitation was not sincere. I know I didn't think it was sincere. And after what had happened with Terry that day, I'm sure socializing was the last thing Jim wanted to do. Also, just the nature of the activities. Jim would probably not be a very good bowler anymore, and it would bring his blindness to the forefront. But just going for a drink with the guys is an activity he can do quite well. |
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Post by Kasman on May 7, 2008 15:25:28 GMT -5
I can actually answer part of this, because I was just reading testimony from a homicide detective about how they "process" a scene and how long it takes. When the first cops arrive, they secure the scene by putting up that yellow crime scene tape and keeping everyone out who's not supposed to be there. Then they collect physical evidence, take photos, and so forth. When they're done, the scene is "released," meaning they take down the tape, the cops leave, and people are allowed back in. In the case I was reading today, the shooting happened at 8:30 p.m., and the scene was "released" at 3 a.m. So it's possible they could have finished their work at the Tuxhorn apartment in a matter of hours and "released" the scene the same day. But it still seemed very fast. And rducasey is absolutely right: how did Joan get the cleaning crew there so fast? Maybe the same way she got that poor guy's body cremated so fast? Or did she have them lined up in advance as part of the plan? And I believe this is what happens next - although I'm not sure how fast they get there. |
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Post by mlm828 on May 7, 2008 17:46:26 GMT -5
Oh dear, this just bothers me so much about this episode....just really poorly done. A cleaning crew in the house the very day that the murder happened and right under the noses of the detectives! (I'd like to know how she got a cleaning crew to come so fast. I called to get my rugs shampooed a few months back, and I had to wait two weeks.) Thinking about this a little more, I think it's simply a case of things happening faster on TV than they do in real life, which occurs on a lot of TV shows, not only Blind Justice. |
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Post by Chris on May 7, 2008 17:51:08 GMT -5
I like this one. Welcome to the "shallow" end of the pool, Lindy! Yes, the shallow end of the pool is really fine and thanks for the picture! If this is shallow, I'd like to join in. Shallow is good!!! ;D - Chris  |
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Post by hoosier on May 7, 2008 18:39:33 GMT -5
Oh dear, this just bothers me so much about this episode....just really poorly done. A cleaning crew in the house the very day that the murder happened and right under the noses of the detectives! (I'd like to know how she got a cleaning crew to come so fast. I called to get my rugs shampooed a few months back, and I had to wait two weeks.) Thinking about this a little more, I think it's simply a case of things happening faster on TV than they do in real life, which occurs on a lot of TV shows, not only Blind Justice. Yes, you have to be willing to suspend disbelief and just go with the flow. |
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Post by Colorado girl on May 7, 2008 19:48:44 GMT -5
Yes, the shallow end of the pool is really fine and thanks for the picture! If this is shallow, I'd like to join in. Shallow is good!!! ;D - Chris Yep!!! Shallow is good ;D It's get home late, kick off your heels, put on your jammies, eat your tim tams and milk, get in bed and watch Blind Justice for the millionth time and drool over that blond dude good. |
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