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Post by mlm828 on May 18, 2008 1:08:40 GMT -5
It's May 17, the start of week 11 of the re-watch. Shall we dance?  |
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Post by maggiethecat on May 18, 2008 18:23:51 GMT -5
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Post by hoosier on May 19, 2008 16:33:59 GMT -5
It's May 17, the start of week 11 of the re-watch. Shall we dance? Notice the smile on the dance instructor's face. Finally she's getting the blond dude right where she wanted him ;D |
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Post by rducasey on May 19, 2008 19:10:30 GMT -5
It's May 17, the start of week 11 of the re-watch. Shall we dance? Notice the smile on the dance instructor's face. Finally she's getting the blond dude right where she wanted him ;D When she asks if he will demonstrate and she says " you'll learn faster this way, trust me".....it made more sense to me this time when I watched it . After all, I wondered, how would he know the steps unless someone were actually doing what the dance instructor was doing. How would one describe the steps to him, if he can not observe? |
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Post by mlm828 on May 19, 2008 22:29:16 GMT -5
When she asks if he will demonstrate and she says " you'll learn faster this way, trust me".....it made more sense to me this time when I watched it . After all, I wondered, how would he know the steps unless someone were actually doing what the dance instructor was doing. How would one describe the steps to him, if he can not observe? Good points. But, you know, there's a lot in this episode that doesn't have to do with ballroom dancing -- thank heavens! Such as: Jim's "You're black?" routine with Tom, which still makes me laugh out loud and (almost) compensates for the abbreviated session with Dr. Galloway.  Then there's the scene where Artie asks for Jim's help, and Jim is so very uncomfortable -- but he agrees to talk to Pete in spite of his misgivings.  I really like all of the scenes with Pete. I get the sense that Jim is coming to realize he is a part of a group, maybe even a community, whether he wants to be or not.  When he talks to Pete, we see him opening up about blindness more than we've seen with anyone else, maybe because he knows this is what Pete needs (not only information about pissing standing up):  And he gets another tip of the cap from me when he goes along with Christie's ballroom dancing idea. "Fred Astaire, huh? He was my hero growing up."  By the way, they do manage to solve the case, even if they can't yet make an arrest. As Tom said, Meg had better hope Vic stays away from the "cheap-ass Scotch."  One of my favorite lines is when Jim goes to ask Dean to give Pete a job and tells Dean, "The odds are pretty good that I'm not looking at you."  After Tom witnesses Artie thanking Jim for helping Pete, and after Jim gets Dean to hire Pete, I remember thinking that we, like Tom, have seen a somewhat different -- and admirable -- side of Jim in this episode. And then Jim and Christie go to their first dance class. But you knew that already.  |
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Post by hoosier on May 21, 2008 18:54:29 GMT -5
We learn that Jim has been at the 8th for 4 months. Tom mentions it in the locker room "who you think you been working with the last 4 months?" I guess had I never paid much attention to that fact before for some reason.
When Jim told Artie that he hadn't even spoken with another blind person since rehab I wondered if he was still in some state of denial. Does he perceive himself as being somehow different from the rest of the blind community, so different that he chose to disassociate himself once he had completed rehab? Is it because he doesn't fit the stereotype at least in his own mind? Is it one of the reasons why he works so hard-- to prove it as much to himself as he does to everyone else? So he isn't forced to compare himself to another blind person and maybe find himself wanting or lacking in some way? When he meets Pete you notice that the last thing he admits to is that he is blind.
I was struck at how far it had come from the ditzy Ms. Chenowith and her "like totally blind" comment to Artie Steckle's seemingly matter-of-fact acceptance of Jim as a blind cop.
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Post by Chris on May 22, 2008 4:42:21 GMT -5
We learn that Jim has been at the 8th for 4 months. Tom mentions it in the locker room "who you think you been working with the last 4 months?" I guess had I never paid much attention to that fact before for some reason. When Jim told Artie that he hadn't even spoken with another blind person since rehab I wondered if he was still in some state of denial. Does he perceive himself as being somehow different from the rest of the blind community, so different that he chose to disassociate himself once he had completed rehab? Is it because he doesn't fit the stereotype at least in his own mind? Is it one of the reasons why he works so hard-- to prove it as much to himself as he does to everyone else? So he isn't forced to compare himself to another blind person and maybe find himself wanting or lacking in some way? When he meets Pete you notice that the last thing he admits to is that he is blind. I think you're right about that. But when he meets Pete he hesitates for a second before he tells him "I'm blind" and I think it's because it's the first time he's ever had to tell anyone. Back when the shooting happened it was all over the news and I suppose Christie was the one to tell family and friends etc. what had happened. Then he went to rehab - everybody there knew, and since then whenever he meets people they notice right away that he's blind. But Pete didn't and wouldn't, because he too is blind. So Jim has to tell him, something he realizes he has never done before. Usually he confirms it, like he did to Ms. Chenowith but even she had noticed beforehand. It seems to me like it's much harder for Jim to tell someone that he is blind than it is to comfirm to someone who already knows, that yes, I'm blind, got a problem with that? - Chris  |
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Post by mlm828 on May 22, 2008 21:15:33 GMT -5
When Jim told Artie that he hadn't even spoken with another blind person since rehab I wondered if he was still in some state of denial. Does he perceive himself as being somehow different from the rest of the blind community, so different that he chose to disassociate himself once he had completed rehab? Is it because he doesn't fit the stereotype at least in his own mind? Is it one of the reasons why he works so hard--to prove it as much to himself as he does to everyone else? So he isn't forced to compare himself to another blind person and maybe find himself wanting or lacking in some way? I agree Jim seems very uncomfortable with being asked to do something as a blind person. I'm guessing that, even though he's adjusted and adapted to blindness, he hasn't yet fully integrated the concept of "blind person" into his idea of who he is. When he meets Pete you notice that the last thing he admits to is that he is blind. I think you're right about that. But when he meets Pete he hesitates for a second before he tells him "I'm blind" and I think it's because it's the first time he's ever had to tell anyone. Back when the shooting happened it was all over the news and I suppose Christie was the one to tell family and friends etc. what had happened. Then he went to rehab - everybody there knew, and since then whenever he meets people they notice right away that he's blind. But Pete didn't and wouldn't, because he too is blind. So Jim has to tell him, something he realizes he has never done before. Usually he confirms it, like he did to Ms. Chenowith but even she had noticed beforehand. It seems to me like it's much harder for Jim to tell someone that he is blind than it is to confirm to someone who already knows, that yes, I'm blind, got a problem with that? When watching the scene where Jim goes to Pete's apartment for the first time, I always thought there was a certain reluctance to tell Pete he was blind. But now I'm not so sure. Jim certainly has no problem telling Kim Chenowith, as Chris points out, or Terry's new partner Glen. The explanation could be quite simple. Maybe Jim doesn't know how bad Pete's eyesight is, especially after Pete demands to "see" his badge, and doesn't realize at first that Pete doesn't know he's blind. |
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