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Post by mlm828 on May 25, 2008 21:48:21 GMT -5
It's week 12 of the re-watch, and Jim is "Under the Gun."  |
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Post by maggiethecat on May 26, 2008 7:10:16 GMT -5
Even though I may not have time to watch, I'm definitely going to kick off the week by rereading Shmeep's terrifc recap of this episode, which I highly recommend. I may be caught up with this re-watch by . . . oh . . . Labor Day?  |
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Post by hoosier on May 28, 2008 19:12:40 GMT -5
I always assumed that Christie picked Jim up (we saw their car when they went after Hank so they do own one) so why didn't Jim leave the bag in the car? Afraid someone would break into the car? Did he have his dance shoes in there so he toted it from class to the restaurant, bypassing the car in their hurry to eat? Well, he did have to have it with him or there would have been no story. Since Hank got left in the car, as usual, he could have looked after it for Jim ;D
Though I did like the weird strobing flashback to the bank (don't blink during this time) why did they use it? Then and now does concern Jim and his or a gun. The one he used at the bank was an automatic (you see him putting in a clip) while the gun he now carries is a .38 so it can't be about losing the weapon he carried while he could see. Is it because they are both situations that are basically beyond his control and all he can do is react?
Talk about bull in a china shop mentality! Tom warns Jim that he is not to have contact with Eastman's daughter even if they run into each other during the course of the investigation. How would they run into each other? She and Josh Krist both attend Kendall Academy. So what does the blond dude do? Yep, heads straight for Kendall Academy and a talk with Chase Eastman and what does she do? Lawyers up. Ah, Jim, not the smartest move.
I loved the subtle play of emotion when Jim comes clean with Fisk about losing his gun--the slight quaver and catch in his voice, his unconscious nervous gestures, having to admit that he no longer knew "which way is up". No longer the confident man who confronted Fisk that first day, Jim shows that he is human and fallible and it isn't easy.
Karen pointing out that it could be ten years before Jim might need to draw his weapon again brings up the fact that detective work is more mental than physical. Was she silently agreeing with him that it was okay to keep the gun? That it just might be years before some situation arose where he might be called upon to use it?
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Post by mlm828 on May 28, 2008 22:35:32 GMT -5
I always assumed that Christie picked Jim up (we saw their car when they went after Hank so they do own one) so why didn't Jim leave the bag in the car? Afraid someone would break into the car? Did he have his dance shoes in there so he toted it from class to the restaurant, bypassing the car in their hurry to eat? Well, he did have to have it with him or there would have been no story. Since Hank got left in the car, as usual, he could have looked after it for Jim. ;D I doubt Christie and Jim drove to dance class and dinner. This is NYC, where people don't drive everywhere (unlike the rest of us), even if they do own a car. And Jim tells Tom he's "meeting" his wife, which suggests she's not picking him up. I don't think Jim could have left the gym bag and his gun in the car, in any event. As I understand it, a police officer is supposed to have his gun with him at all times, even if he's off duty. I have concluded there is simply no satisfactory answer to the question, "Where was Hank while Jim and Christie were at the restaurant?" It's essential for the story that Hank isn't there, since it's unlikely someone would have taken the gym bag from under the table if there was a large German Shepherd sitting next to it. This just seems to be a detail that the writers didn't think through thoroughly. Talk about bull in a china shop mentality! Tom warns Jim that he is not to have contact with Eastman's daughter even if they run into each other during the course of the investigation. How would they run into each other? She and Josh Krist both attend Kendall Academy. So what does the blond dude do? Yep, heads straight for Kendall Academy and a talk with Chase Eastman and what does she do? Lawyers up. Ah, Jim, not the smartest move. I always notice that, too. As soon as Tom tells him Mr. Eastman said his kids are off limits, the first thing Jim does is go to the daughter's school to question her. Either the "bull-in-a-china-shop" approach, or maybe he's sending a message to Mr. Eastman that he can't dictate the course of a murder investigation. I loved the subtle play of emotion when Jim comes clean with Fisk about losing his gun--the slight quaver and catch in his voice, his unconscious nervous gestures, having to admit that he no longer knew "which way is up". No longer the confident man who confronted Fisk that first day, Jim shows that he is human and fallible and it isn't easy. This is one of my favorite scenes in the episode, for the reasons you mention. I also like Fisk in this scene, and the way he shows sympathy while not soft-pedaling the seriousness of the situation. Another scene I like in this episode is the scene between Jim and Christie in the apartment at the end of the day. For once, we get a brief glimpse of how Jim feels about being blind, when he talks about having had to give up so many things, and feeling diminished every time he does. And Christie's response shows that she knows exactly what he's talking about. She actually seems not only sympathetic, but even wise.  |
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Post by rducasey on May 29, 2008 15:40:10 GMT -5
This just seems to be a detail that the writers didn't think through thoroughly. Nor did they ever think there would be a group like us pouring over "every little thing."They probably thought, 'so who will ever notice that detail.' |
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Post by mlm828 on May 30, 2008 1:16:00 GMT -5
There is something else (aside from Hank's mysterious absence) which bothers me about the brawl in the restaurant. During the fight, Jim chokes out a guy:  At the end of the fight, we see the guy (apparently a member of the Postiglione family) lying on the floor apparently unconscious, with Vince Postiglione next to him, looking worried. I would think the whole Postiglione family would be complaining loudly about this when the cops arrive, but no one says a word about it. What's up with that? |
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Post by hoosier on May 30, 2008 17:35:05 GMT -5
Thats a good question. Seeing that the fight was over by the time they arrived, you would think the cops would be checking on any injured people or at least calling for paramedics before taking statements from anyone. Jim was quick to move in though, telling the cop that his bag was stolen with their money etc. Maybe the Postiglione's had had dealings with the police and preferred not to make waves plus there were witnesses who could have testified to the fact that the guy had been drunk, loud and obnoxious and had initiated the fisticuffs by his poor choice of words! Even if he was from the wrong side of the tracks I liked Vince waaaay better that Mr. Eastman. At least he was willing to hear Jim out.
My big question is why steal Jim's bag in the first place? And what about Christie's purse? She is definitely not the fanny pack type and I can't imagine her going out for the evening without some kind of bag but no one else seems to have reported anything missing and no one seems to have known Jim was a cop. It seems contrived, some way for Jim to have an "issue" with his gun that brings the fact that he even carries one to a head so it can be resolved once and for all.
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Post by mlm828 on May 30, 2008 20:43:24 GMT -5
My big question is why steal Jim's bag in the first place? . . . It seems contrived, some way for Jim to have an "issue" with his gun that brings the fact that he even carries one to a head so it can be resolved once and for all. I agree that the theft of the bag was simply a device to bring the gun issue to the forefront and set the stage for Jim to give up the gun in the next episode. I'm willing to cut them a little slack, however, and consider the theft a "crime of opportunity" in the confusion of the brawl. |
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