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Post by Katryna on Apr 21, 2008 2:20:52 GMT -5
I was just wondering how different the movie will be from the play. We might see a lot more backstory than in the play. I wonder if that will change the impact of it all. Sometimes movies don't improve the story very much. This is a reference to Doubt (The Movie) from a recent interview Philip Seymour Hoffman did with Playbill. That last sentence has me very curious! The release date is December 5 according to IMDB. Playbill.com: You've just finished filming the movie version of Doubt, directed by its author John Patrick Shanley. How was that? PSH: It was great. I loved working with Meryl [Streep, his co-star]. And John did a great job directing. He knew what he wanted and he was very open and very patient with everybody involved, and he saw it through. The story is expanded, but the play is there.Modified to add: I have also read that the run time is about 2 hours. The play was 90 minutes. That was from a blog, so I am not sure how accurate the 2 hour time is.
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Post by Colorado girl on Dec 13, 2008 14:44:49 GMT -5
I was sure that the Doubt movie was supposed to premier yesterday. I looked in the newspaper for a review but it is not showing here in Denver yet. I did read that all four principle actors got nominated for a golden globe.
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Post by mlm828 on Dec 13, 2008 18:09:29 GMT -5
I believe it opened in only a few cities yesterday -- New York, Los Angeles, and a few others. It is scheduled to open in additional cities (including San Diego) next Friday, December 19th, and, I believe, in more cities on Christmas Day.
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Post by bjobsessed on Dec 13, 2008 18:15:28 GMT -5
Hope it comes here although it probably won't come to my little town!
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Post by Colorado girl on Dec 26, 2008 17:02:33 GMT -5
I just got back from seeing Doubt at the movie theater. It was really good. Very powerful. I actually enjoyed the expanded scenes. I did not feel that they took anything away from the actual lines from the play and all the lines from the play were fit in well. I thought all four major actors did a spectacular job. I especially liked Meryl Streep and Amy Adams' portrayals.
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Post by mlm828 on Jan 4, 2009 15:37:47 GMT -5
I saw the movie of Doubt on Friday and thought it was very, very good overall. The added material fit in very well, although I thought it sometimes took the focus away from the conflict between Sister Aloysius and Father Flynn. Overall, I thought the play was more powerful than the movie, but that may simply be a function of the immediacy of the theater as opposed to the screen.
The atmosphere was excellent; that school was a grim place, no doubt a reflection of Sister Aloysius. Some of the added scenes were apparently intended to show how much of a disciplinarian and traditionalist she was, but at times it seemed a little like a stereotype of the (overly) strict Catholic school principal of the past. (I didn't go to Catholic school, so I'd be interested in the comments of those who did). Meryl Streep was, as expected, excellent in the role of the implacable Sister Aloysius. My only criticism is that she overdid the final scene, in my opinion.
Not surprisingly, Philip Seymour Hoffman's interpretation of Father Flynn was quite different from Ron Eldard's, but quite effective. I don't think he could have played the character in the same way RE did. Where RE created doubt by the character's likability, Hoffman created doubt by the character's kindness.
The theater was rather full, and I was struck by how quiet it was during the movie.
I definitely recommend the movie version of Doubt.
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Post by Colorado girl on Jan 4, 2009 16:49:32 GMT -5
I saw the movie of Doubt on Friday and thought it was very, very good overall. The added material fit in very well, although I thought it sometimes took the focus away from the conflict between Sister Aloysius and Father Flynn. Overall, I thought the play was more powerful than the movie, but that may simply be a function of the immediacy of the theater as opposed to the screen. The atmosphere was excellent; that school was a grim place, no doubt a reflection of Sister Aloysius. Some of the added scenes were apparently intended to show how much of a disciplinarian and traditionalist she was, but at times it seemed a little like a stereotype of the (overly) strict Catholic school principal of the past. (I didn't go to Catholic school, so I'd be interested in the comments of those who did). Meryl Streep was, as expected, excellent in the role of the implacable Sister Aloysius. My only criticism is that she overdid the final scene, in my opinion. Not surprisingly, Philip Seymour Hoffman's interpretation of Father Flynn was quite different from Ron Eldard's, but quite effective. I don't think he could have played the character in the same way RE did. Where RE created doubt by the character's likability, Hoffman created doubt by the character's kindness. The theater was rather full, and I was struck by how quiet it was during the movie. I definitely recommend the movie version of Doubt.I am glad someone else has seen this film.(Maybe others have and have not commented on it. ) I really did not see much kindness in Hoffman's Flynn. I found him to be a priest enjoying his place in a very male dominated religion and even though he showed kindness to Donald Miller, I found his motives personal and not motivated by compassion. Perhaps,what made me think that in this film, was the scenes of contrast between the men's fellowship and the stark reality of the lives of the nuns. They seemed to be called to two very different sets of rules. I did not much care for Hoffman's Flynn, especially his first sermon, in the Movie version. It seemed to me like he did not care much and was going through the motions and not showing much emotion. That was not true, however, in the second sermon. He was pretty fired up. Perhaps it was because when Ron gave the sermon , it was the first scene of the play and he had to hit it very hard. I enjoyed Ron's interpretation much more. Because Ron is so much more handsome(shallow ;D), I felt that it was too hard for me to see him as a bad guy. No problem there with Hoffman's Father Flynn. I thought that the tension between him and Streep was much more intense than Ron and the actress who I saw. (I did not get to see the version with Eileen Atkins). I too thoroughly enjoyed Meryl Streep's version of sister Alyoisius and totally agree that the last scene was too overly dramatic. I was impressed with Amy Adams as sister James. You could see her unraveling and getting hard as the movie progressed. if you can and haven't seen it, I would highly recommend it too.
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Post by mlm828 on Jan 4, 2009 17:55:23 GMT -5
I really did not see much kindness in Hoffman's Flynn. I found him to be a priest enjoying his place in a very male dominated religion and even though he showed kindness to Donald Miller, I found his motives personal and not motivated by compassion. I don't necessarily disagree with this. I simply meant that his acts of apparent kindness toward Donald Miller are what created the doubt in my mind, because they could have been something more sinister. Perhaps,what made me think that in this film, was the scenes of contrast between the men's fellowship and the stark reality of the lives of the nuns. They seemed to be called to two very different sets of rules. I, too, was struck, by the contrast. However, I think that, overall, Sister Aloysius was made out to be more powerful than she probably would have been in the male-dominated church. When Father Flynn says something to the effect that he will fight her and she responds, "You will lose," I think that was a hollow threat on her part. I think it was clearer in the play that she could not win against the male hierarchy.
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Post by bjobsessed on Jan 4, 2009 22:54:37 GMT -5
You guys are making me wish I could see it but I'll probably end up having to wait for the dvd. It's nowhere near here.
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Post by inuvik on Jan 5, 2009 11:49:20 GMT -5
I saw it too and really liked it! I was going to read the play, but if the movie has added content that they play doesn't, I won't bother.
We had a great debate after the movie and I am still thinking about it!
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Post by Katryna on Jan 9, 2009 23:49:27 GMT -5
I saw Doubt Wednesday night and basically agree with many of the points already expressed. I though the movie was quite good, but not as good as the play. Of course, IMO nothing compares to a live performance. I agree with Lindy's assessment of the two Father Flynn's - "shallow" comment and all! I felt that the tension between Ron's Father Flynn and Dame Eileen's was greater than Hoffman and Streep. I am curious as to how others who saw both "versions" feel about that point. I was also impressed with Amy Adams portrayal of Sister James. Much better than Jena Malone's interpretation in my opinion! And Viola Davis's portrayal of Mrs Miller was excellent. I was surprised that some of the lines in the play were omitted. One of them, was Sister James' reaction to finding out that Sr. Aloysius had been married. I did love that in the play, but it was not in the movie. Overall I do agree that it was absolutely worth seeing!
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Post by inuvik on Jan 10, 2009 12:14:20 GMT -5
And Viola Davis's portrayal of Mrs Miller was excellent. I was surprised that some of the lines in the play were omitted. One of them, was Sister James' reaction to finding out that Sr. Aloysius had been married. I did love that in the play, but it was not in the movie. What was her reaction?
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Post by Katryna on Jan 10, 2009 20:58:55 GMT -5
And Viola Davis's portrayal of Mrs Miller was excellent. I was surprised that some of the lines in the play were omitted. One of them, was Sister James' reaction to finding out that Sr. Aloysius had been married. I did love that in the play, but it was not in the movie. What was her reaction? Sister Aloysius and Sister James were talking in the garden. In the course of the conversation Sister Aloysius brings up St Elizabeth Seton, the founder of their order, mentioning that she was married with five children before she took her vows. "I’ve always wondered how she managed so much in one life." Says Sr. James. Sr. Aloysius replies “I was married”. Sr. James emphatically says "You WERE!!!" Sr Aloysius then says "You could at least hide your astonishment." It drew quite a laugh from the audience and I thought it served to show the "human" side of Sister Aloysius.
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Post by inuvik on Jan 11, 2009 14:09:23 GMT -5
Sister Aloysius and Sister James were talking in the garden. In the course of the conversation Sister Aloysius brings up St Elizabeth Seton, the founder of their order, mentioning that she was married with five children before she took her vows. "I’ve always wondered how she managed so much in one life." Says Sr. James. Sr. Aloysius replies “I was married”. Sr. James emphatically says "You WERE!!!" Sr Aloysius then says "You could at least hide your astonishment." It drew quite a laugh from the audience and I thought it served to show the "human" side of Sister Aloysius. Funny, you'd think in the movie they would have left that in--little enough humour in this topic, so always good to have a laugh! Thanks!
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Post by bjobsessed on Mar 23, 2009 17:00:36 GMT -5
Doubt comes out on April 7.
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