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Post by bump on Jul 4, 2006 18:22:10 GMT -5
I know that I am probably opening myself up for attack with this post but I feel it is necessary given the underlying message in the post above. What I (we?) really value about this board is that everyone is entitled to an opinion, the other members respect that, and posts don't get deleted by admins (unlike boards which shall not be named, which we all belonged to in the past). I don't think anyone will attack you for your reply. I'm not sure why this topic came back up and I never forgot or doubted that you were next to Barbara. My post was about etiquette and the fact that I've never had the problem/issue of going somewhere where having an extra body was a problem. It really got me wondering about whether my friends and I were just that relaxed with bringing friends along. If anyone wants to comment on the propriety of such a situation, I'd love to hear from them. That's why I prefaced it with a note to the admins that I'd gladly move it if they felt it shouldn't be in this thread anymore. I don't think my post was argumentative in any way. In actuality, it had nothing to do with Barbara. Sadly, you've chosen to read into it something that wasn't there.
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Post by Katryna on Jul 4, 2006 18:58:45 GMT -5
If your post alludes to this particular invitation and the fact that Barbara didn't take it upon herself to extend it to anyone else, may I remind you that I was standing right beside her, in conversation with this man, and at no time did he say, Barbara, why don't you and your friend come or at no time was a similar offer made to me. No, the invitation was extended to her and her alone. In my post from earlier today I said that we were happy that we have been able to see this talented actor on stage and meet him outside the stage door several times. That is all we wanted. I feel as though our being there is now being used in this debate in a manner which disappoints me. In May Mary and I went back to NYC to see Doubt again and to do some Blind Justice touring that we were not able to do in March due to restrictions of time and weather. When Barbara, who we had met with very briefly in March, heard that we would be back; she very generously offered to spend some time with us. In fact, she spent all of Saturday afternoon with us - helping us to navigate the subways and find out way to the Brooklyn Bridge, the Dunbar Residence, etc. Barbara returned that evening and met us outside the stage door after the play, thinking that perhaps her being there would allow us more time with Mr. Eldard. She was right. I was standing next to her when he realized that she was there. His face lit up with a spontaneous smile and he hugged her. But for the rest of the ten minutes or so that he spent with us, Barbara, as she did with Lori, centered the conversation around us. It was a special night during a special weekend that I will never forget. When we decided to go back one last time to see the play it was just to do that...to see the play and to be part of the final performance, which we thought would be special. And it was. We knew Barbara would be going back stage and were happy for her. I will repeat again that we had no desire or expectation to be included in any back stage visit. In fact we purposely kept our contact with Mr Eldard outside the stage door to the bare minimum. Neither of us asked him to sign our playbills and I only wished him success in the future. Mary did not approach him at all. She was happy just to watch him "work the crowd" in her words. At this point I am sorry that I even posted that we were there. I feel that we are being used to further a cause that is unclear to me at this time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2006 19:13:47 GMT -5
I've stayed pretty quiet for a while, watching this whole thing unfold and now I must speak. There are some who have PMed me excited about what happened, some who even posted the same - and I thank you. Sharing what I selfishly refer to as "my city" is such a great joy to me, I'd do it for anyone; it's what I love to do. But there have been other "heated discussions" shall I say regarding this invite that, in truth, my posting it has shown me, not only in the smites I received, that I really should have never said a word at all. At this point, I can't even find the words to express what it's made me feel like; and it shouldn't be.
If I've hurt anyone, I apologize; that was never my intention. Nor was it my expectation to be invited backstage or anything of the sort - nor, again will I say, was it in relation to the website. But I suppose what I say does not matter at all.
I've truly had enough.
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Post by maggiethecat on Jul 4, 2006 20:02:16 GMT -5
Well, good night nurse, as Archie Bunker used to say. (Another famous guy from Queens, if anyone remembers.) This is what happens when I have to turn off my computer for four hours because of thunderstorm warnings. (I fried a Modem a few years back and take no chances, surge strips notwithstanding.) I come back and all Hell's broken loose! What is going on here? Did Rite-Aid run out of Lithium over the holiday?! Are we ALL on hormone replacement therapy?! Have we lost any and all sense of perspective? Here's the deal. I don't know the backstory on all of this, and I don't want to know. My life has been wretchedly stressful the past year (career woes, fulltime caregiver for my adored aging mother with serious health problems, you name it), and I come here to to play games, to chat with friends, to analyze every Blind Justice episode down to whether or not Dunbar should have turned around his cup of take-out coffee, to laugh and giggle and have fun. To wrangle with Kyt in "Up on the Roof," or swap generations-old Southern family recipes with mlm88. In short, to escape. Some of us who live near or in New York were lucky enough to see Doubt. Some of us came from far away: Juli and mlm88 from California, bjobsessed from The Great Frozen North, Lori and Kenina and Doobrah from the South, Mary from Pennsylvania and rducasey from Rhode Island and I'm sorry if I left anyone out. Everyone had a different experience. Everyone's experience was their own. It's over. The play has closed. We move on. Call me Maggie the Peacemaker or Maggie the Twit, I don't care. I was raised on Little Women and Beth's famous line, "Birds in their little nests agree." Life is short, and, if you treasure your friends, beautiful. If that sounds sappy, shoot me or smite me. This has to stop. I love this board and I don't want it to change. As Father Flynn might have said: Thus endeth the lesson for today.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2006 20:07:51 GMT -5
Well, good night nurse, as Archie Bunker used to say. (Another famous guy from Queens, if anyone remembers.) This is what happens when I have to turn off my computer for four hours because of thunderstorm warnings. (I fried a Modem a few years back and take no chances, surge strips notwithstanding.) I come back and all Hell's broken loose! What is going on here? Did Rite-Aid run out of Lithium over the holiday?! Are we ALL on hormone replacement therapy?! Have we lost any and all sense of perspective? Here's the deal. I don't know the backstory on all of this, and I don't want to know. My life has been wretchedly stressful the past year (career woes, caregiver for adored aging mother with health problems, you name it), and I come here to to play games, to chat with friends, to analyze every Blind Justice episode down to whether or not Dunbar should have turned around his cup of take-out coffee, to laugh and giggle and have fun. To wrangle with Kyt in "Up on the Roof," or swap generations-old Southern family recipes with mlm88. In short, to escape. Some of us who live near or in New York were lucky enough to see Doubt. Some of us came from far away: Juli and mlm88 from California, bjobsessed from The Great Frozen North, Lori and Kenina and Doobrah from the South, Mary from Pennsylvania and rducasey from Rhode Island and I'm sorry if I left anyone out. Everyone had a different experience. Everyone's experience was their own. It's over. The play has closed. We move on. Call me Maggie the Peacemaker or Maggie the Twit, I don't care. I was raised on Little Women and Beth's famous line, "Birds in their little nests agree." Life is short, and, if you treasure your friends, beautiful. If that sounds sappy, shoot me or smite me. This has to stop. I love this board and I don't want it to change. Thus endeth the lesson for today. Good job, Maggie - said from the heart. After all this that I've read, privately as well, I'm disgusted. Really and truly. I guess the fun is over. I karma-ed you.
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Post by Dreamfire on Jul 4, 2006 20:14:47 GMT -5
It seems from outside there is only one person who is generating conflict - Let her feel yuk if she wants, can't all you long time board members and us newbies, we all just keep having fun?
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Post by mlm828 on Jul 4, 2006 20:41:07 GMT -5
I have been watching the brouhaha unfold this afternoon and cannot add much to maggie's comments, above, except the following.
Speaking for myself, I am absolutely delighted for Barbara that she had the opportunity to visit with Mr. Eldard, and I very much appreciate her sharing that experience with the rest of us. (Karma to Barbara for doing so). Why anyone would have a problem with that is totally beyond me. But like maggie, I don't know, and I don't really want to know.
Like maggie and ashatan, I sincerely hope we can now return to our regularly-scheduled fun.
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Post by maggiethecat on Jul 4, 2006 20:48:52 GMT -5
Oh no, not that, never! Having watched Gone With the Wind twice in the past week (thanks to Turner Classic Movies), I will just quote Miss Scarlett: "After all, tomorrow is another day." Music up, fade to black.
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Post by minianne on Jul 4, 2006 21:29:24 GMT -5
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Post by rducasey on Jul 4, 2006 22:18:37 GMT -5
Oh dear, I have been off with family, food, and fireworks all day and come home to see what's new on the board (a usually fun and relaxing thing to do) and find I could have gotten the fireworks without even leaving home.
I was upset too to see that Kathy and I are in the middle of it all. Well not really but the fact that we were not invited to go backstage started all this? Can I just post my two cents?
I knew that Barbara had been invited by her "friend from the hood" to go backstage. I was thrilled for her. She had been so kind to meet us on both of our previous visits to NY and show us her beautiful city. I saw Ron greet her in March with a huge smile and a hug when he saw her standing off to the side as we waited to see him. When we heard the play was ending, Kathy and I said, "what the hey" we may never have this opportunity again, we are going to be at that closing performance. (Not to mention how much fun we have in the city and we are close enough to be able to just hop busses and be there in a few hours. )It was shortly after that in talking to Barb that we found out he had invited her to come backstage at that performance. We were thrilled for her, and at no time did we even think of asking to tag along. Frankly I would be too embarrassed to have done that. He did not know me, and I knew the final performance and reception after would be for friends and family. In my book, Barb, deserved to be included in the friend catagory. I was content to see that final performance, to hear the onstage speech, and to wait at the stage door to see him one last time, As I said to Kathy, "I am just going to watch him work the crowd." I would not even ask to have a playbill signed since I had already done that. He is amazing the way he gives everyone so much attention. It was enough to just watch and admire him. In all of our fun times in NY we have commented to one another how he brought us all together. I hope this does not drive any of us apart. We have all had too much fun, come too far, and shared a lot. As so many have already said, "let's move on". "There, I said it."
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Post by housemouse on Jul 4, 2006 23:42:54 GMT -5
The administrators have never done anything like this before, but I think it is time to lock this thread.
In the interest of keeping this board from imploding, let's get off this topic and move on.
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Post by maggiethecat on Jul 5, 2006 0:09:07 GMT -5
The administrators have never done anything like this before, but I think it is time to lock this thread. In the interest of keeping this board from imploding, let's get off this topic and move on. AMEN!
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