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Post by shmeep on Oct 19, 2005 13:59:06 GMT -5
This contains spoilers, in case any of you watch CSI:Miami and don't want to know what I'm about to say.
Now, I had never watched this show, but I heard they were going to have a character, Ryan Wolfe, slowly go blind this year. Nail gun to the eye, infection setting in, robbing him of vision. Whatever. Ew. I know. Anyway, this should be starting within the next few episodes, so I started watching just so I could see what the show was like and how I thought they might handle such an event.
First of all, David Caruso...ew! I used to like him back when he thought he made the earth spin on NYPD Blue but--age and ego have not been kind to the man and he obviously has too much say in the story lines (which all seem to revolve around his boring character).
I discovered something interesting while reading the CSI:Miami thread over at televisionwithoutpity. (I couldn't resist.) On many of the threads over there, the posters post because they genuinely like the shows--even if they do like to mock from time to time. This is not the case on the CSI:Miami thread. The people at TwoP largely find it insufferable and they detest David Caruso as much as he deserves to be detested. Turns out, the only reason many of them are sticking around is to see what happens with "the nail gun incident." They don't know when it will happen, so they go to the board every week, complaining that poor Ryan Wolfe's eyes are still intact. One amusing poster said he feared that Ryan Wolfe's blindness storyline would somehow just end up giving David Caruso more air time.
Another thing I discovered over there was the origin of the phrase "Sunglasses of Justice." As some of you may know, the Blind Justice thread at TwoP is called "Blind Justice: The Real Sunglasses of Justice." I always just thought that was amusing but meaningless. Now I know otherwise. It is actually a joke originating on the CSI:Miami thread. See, apparently, David Caruso's Horatio Caine never removes his sunglasses so the posters on the board took to calling him "The Sunglasses of Justice." I like that Blind Justice was at least the REAL sunglasses of justice.
Anyway, I'll be looking in on this show out of curiosity but I really don't have much hope of it being handled well. If there's anything CSI:Miami isn't, it's subtle and nuanced. I expect to have anvils dropping right and left and then they'll probably just write the character off or give him his sight back because they won't know what else to do with him. *sigh* I wish the show at least had some decent writing. The characters (aside from Ho Caine) are decent, but the dialogue just clunks on through and gets old really quick.
There. Rant over.
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Post by mlm828 on Oct 25, 2005 18:21:59 GMT -5
Now, I had never watched this show, but I heard they were going to have a character, Ryan Wolfe, slowly go blind this year. Nail gun to the eye, infection setting in, robbing him of vision. Whatever. Ew. I know. Anyway, this should be starting within the next few episodes, so I started watching just so I could see what the show was like and how I thought they might handle such an event. First of all, David Caruso...ew! I used to like him back when he thought he made the earth spin on NYPD Blue but--age and ego have not been kind to the man and he obviously has too much say in the story lines (which all seem to revolve around his boring character). . . . Anyway, I'll be looking in on this show out of curiosity but I really don't have much hope of it being handled well. If there's anything CSI:Miami isn't, it's subtle and nuanced. I expect to have anvils dropping right and left and then they'll probably just write the character off or give him his sight back because they won't know what else to do with him. *sigh* I wish the show at least had some decent writing. The characters (aside from Ho Caine) are decent, but the dialogue just clunks on through and gets old really quick. There. Rant over. You are so right, shmeep. I have been watching the show for the same reasons, and you summed up my sentiments exactly. I never saw David Caruso in NYPD Blue, but after seeing him in CSI:Miami, I am not impressed. Like you, I am not optimistic about how this show will handle the Ryan Wolfe story line. I'm kind of expecting a poor imitation of Second Sight, with the character trying to conceal his deteriorating vision from his co-workers. But the actor who plays Ryan, while easy to look at, is no Clive Owen.
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Post by maggiethecat on Oct 25, 2005 18:49:34 GMT -5
First of all, David Caruso...ew! I used to like him back when he thought he made the earth spin on NYPD Blue but--age and ego have not been kind to the man and he obviously has too much say in the story lines (which all seem to revolve around his boring character). Oh, I am so laughing at all of this and agreeing. First of all, the best "take" imaginable on that egotistical twit, David Caruso, is in Steven Bochco's wickedly funny novel Death by Hollywood. The last third of the book contains a very thinly disguised account of Caruso's behavior following season one of NYPD Blue, the break-out success of which somehow managed to convince this ham that he hung the moon, the world was only waiting for him to become a huge movie star (not) and so he deserved/needed a hefty pay raise to stay with the show. The rest, as the saying goes, is history. The producers bounced Caruso, Dennis Franz won enough Emmys to break his mantel, and Caruso sank without a trace for a good ten years. And amen, say I. What a self-important twit! And it shows in his work. Two -- okay, three -- questions about this show: 1. Is Caruso using SPF 500 or cement? I understand the fair-skinned Irish complexion (got one myself) but this guy is the most pasty-faced guy in Miami. Looks like he's been under a rock. 2. Horatio? Give me a break. Not since Horatio Hornblower has anyone been named Horatio, let alone a Baby Boomer. 3. How can any of their forensic results be defensible when there is no light in the labs? Has anyone ever been in any sort of government or police facility that wasn't lit by overhead, buzzing, strip flourescent lighting? The CSI shows break that rule -- everything is dark, dark, dark, a sort of uniform Navy blue. I know it's "just a TV show, " but it's really silly. Rant over, but I certainly have amused myself! Heh.
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Post by mlm828 on Nov 4, 2005 15:32:14 GMT -5
I have to add one comment about CSI: Miami. At least, we are assured of one very good moment in each episode, because that moment is in the opening credits: Roger Daltrey's scream in "Won't Get Fooled Again."
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Post by minianne on Nov 4, 2005 16:31:10 GMT -5
Karma for you MLM for posting the photo of Roger Daltrey. What a beautiful man...*sigh* I loved back in the 70's when he had all those curls...
Oh *sigh* *sigh* *sigh*
xoxo Minianne
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Post by hoosier on Nov 4, 2005 17:37:12 GMT -5
The first time I remember seeing David Caruso was on Hill Street Blues where he played the gang leader Shamrock and then later on the movie The First Olympics. I never was a watcher of NYPB Blue, just never got interested. About Miami. I don't know why they put something on so far ahead of time. Trying to catch us BJ fanatics maybe Don't they know what to do with the character? He does seem to rub some of the others the wrong way with his somewhat "I know better than you" attitude. But a nail in the eye!!!! Big time, Ewwww!
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Post by bump on Nov 4, 2005 19:36:33 GMT -5
The "Nailed" episode is scheduled for Monday, November 14th. I just saw it on my TiVo.
Maggie, loved your comment: "1. Is Caruso using SPF 500 or cement? I understand the fair-skinned Irish complexion (got one myself) but this guy is the most pasty-faced guy in Miami. Looks like he's been under a rock. "
LOL!!!! I'm from Miami and I can tell you he'd either be tan by now or beet red and peeling from the sunburn he'd have (most likely the latter).
Becky
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Post by maggiethecat on Nov 5, 2005 2:30:54 GMT -5
The "Nailed" episode is scheduled for Monday, November 14th. I just saw it on my TiVo. Maggie, loved your comment: "1. Is Caruso using SPF 500 or cement? I understand the fair-skinned Irish complexion (got one myself) but this guy is the most pasty-faced guy in Miami. Looks like he's been under a rock. " LOL!!!! I'm from Miami and I can tell you he'd either be tan by now or beet red and peeling from the sunburn he'd have (most likely the latter). Becky Glad I made you laugh! You know, that line actually came from a day I spent on a friend's boat. I, being a fair-skinned redhead, was smearing myself with a liberal coating of SPF 50. And my boat owner pal looked at the bottle and said, "Why don't you just use cement?" ;D
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Post by doobrah on Nov 7, 2005 19:44:22 GMT -5
I had a weird thought last night... Somehow I think BJ would have lasted longer if, instead of that sappy dirge of a theme, they had used The Who. Next time you watch an episode of BJ (tomorrow? ) , just imagine "Won't Get Fooled Again" playing over the opening credits ... much better, don't you think? Especially with Roger Daltrey's scream in the very beginning!
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Post by mlm828 on Nov 7, 2005 22:53:53 GMT -5
I had a weird thought last night... Somehow I think BJ would have lasted longer if, instead of that sappy dirge of a theme, they had used The Who. Next time you watch an episode of BJ (tomorrow? ) , just imagine "Won't Get Fooled Again" playing over the opening credits ... much better, don't you think? Especially with Roger Daltrey's scream in the very beginning! Karma for you, doobrah! I confess I had thought of "Behind Blue Eyes" as the alternate theme song -- but maybe that's a little too obvious. It's not saying much for CSI: Miami if the highlight is the opening theme music, but I can forgive a show a lot if its theme music is by The Greatest Band of All Time.
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Post by shmeep on Nov 14, 2005 8:04:26 GMT -5
Nail gun alert!!
If I'm not mistaken, tonight is the night Ryan Wolfe gets a nailgun to the eye. Oh joy!
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Post by doobrah on Nov 14, 2005 14:08:29 GMT -5
Nail gun alert!! If I'm not mistaken, tonight is the night Ryan Wolfe gets a nailgun to the eye. Oh joy! I saw a promo for it last night. It looks cringe-inducing.
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Post by awlrite4now on Nov 14, 2005 23:21:55 GMT -5
It was pretty cringe-inducing. I won't write any spoilers until the West Coast has had its shot.
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Post by shmeep on Nov 15, 2005 6:56:21 GMT -5
It was pretty cringe-inducing. I won't write any spoilers until the West Coast has had its shot. What a bad show! Now I'll just watch out of morbid curiosity to see what they do with Ryan once the infection sets in--or however they're planning to do it. *sigh* The writing! Oh, it makes me cringe more than seeing Ryan Wolfe screaming with a nail sticking out of his eye. That was actually kind of entertaining, if you're amused by such things (and I sometimes am...but only if it's bad enough. This qualifies). Cop: Divorce is Brutal. Horatio Caine (eying the corpse): It's a killer. This-- this?--stays on the air while Blind Justice is canceled? What is wrong with the world.
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Post by bjobsessed on Nov 15, 2005 7:07:08 GMT -5
Cop: Divorce is Brutal. Horatio Caine (eying the corpse): It's a killer. This-- this?--stays on the air while Blind Justice is canceled? What is wrong with the world. Obviously, too much to fix!
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