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Post by shmeep on Nov 17, 2005 11:39:22 GMT -5
Since Invuik mentioned the lack of a Gilmore Girl thread over here...
Yes, I'm glad Rory is back too. I didn't like the dynamic with the mother and daughter not talking to one another when the whole basis of the show has always been built around their tight relationship. But they handled the separation well, showing how hard it was for both Lorelai and for Rory to be apart. It was beautiful to see Rory finally being less than perfect in the eyes of her grandparents.
Luke's newly-discovered daughter? I had my doubts about that storyline when I heard about it, but I like the way it's being handled so far. Should makes things interesting.
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Post by inuvik on Nov 17, 2005 15:11:56 GMT -5
Ahh, the Gilmore Girls, or GG's as I affectionately call it (not to be confused with another GG's here in Canada, the Governor General's awards). But I digress! This has been one of my favorite shows since it began, about 5 years ago now I believe. It is so great to see a single parent family portrayed in a positive light. It's also nice to see a close mother and daughter, yet both are still very independent. It also portrays Rory, who is incredibly smart, as being cool and relatively popular, and not a nerd. I also like the start of Luke's fatherhood storyline. Before, Luke and Lorelai couldn't get married because Lorelai wanted to reconcile with Rory. I think this will now be another impediment to marriage. They likely want to spin out the relationship tension for a while longer. Remember what happened when Niles and Daphne got married? I was so glad they brought Jess back a couple of episodes ago. I don't think he'll be back again, but he sure helped bring Rory back to her senses regarding Yale. I'm not sure if I could recommend this or not to others. I mean it's great, but it is a continuing storyline drama, like Everwood (no responses to my thread, so guess I am the only fan!) and Prison Break, and it's in its fifth year, so it might be hard to jump into. But it's certainly a well written show, realisitic and thoughtful.
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Post by inuvik on Jan 18, 2006 14:28:23 GMT -5
I cannot believe last night's episode!
It's unbelievable that Luke waited so long to tell Lorelai (and still didn't--she just found out anyway) about his daughter, after all his ranting about honesty with Lorelai and Christopher.
Also, I can't believe Lorelai is ticked off that Luke wants to postpone the wedding. She postponed for about 2 months when she and Rory weren't talking!
These people, I tell you. Much as I love the show, I tend to think it has jumped the shark. This season, with Rory and Lorelai not talking, and Luke having a daughter feels like a desperate ploy--bring in a new character and another twist.
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Post by shmeep on Feb 1, 2006 13:56:32 GMT -5
Okay...last night? Awesome!
Most of the episode was a regular visit to Stars Hollow/Yale. Enjoyable, but nothing earth shattering.
But the last ten minutes? That was possibly the best ten minutes of the entire series. Finally! Rory at Richard and Emily's throats. Lorelai trying to intervene. Yelling. Expressing real feelings. All those short moments of fighting, interspersed with perfectly normal moments of commonplace conversation. Wow! Brilliant! I want more like that.
I really want to know if Luke has told April about Lorelai. I don't mind that storyline much, but I'm really disappointed that Luke wanted to postpone the wedding over it. That doesn't seem like him.
And is Paris off her meds? Whoa.
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Post by inuvik on Feb 1, 2006 15:53:54 GMT -5
Okay...last night? Awesome! Most of the episode was a regular visit to Stars Hollow/Yale. Enjoyable, but nothing earth shattering. But the last ten minutes? That was possibly the best ten minutes of the entire series. Finally! Rory at Richard and Emily's throats. Lorelai trying to intervene. Yelling. Expressing real feelings. All those short moments of fighting, interspersed with perfectly normal moments of commonplace conversation. Wow! Brilliant! I want more like that. I really want to know if Luke has told April about Lorelai. I don't mind that storyline much, but I'm really disappointed that Luke wanted to postpone the wedding over it. That doesn't seem like him. And is Paris off her meds? Whoa. Well said Shmeep! All I have to add is what I've already said before--they want to keep up the sexual/dramatic tension and I think they may not even get married this season. Look at Niles and Daphne on Frasier--marriage can wreck shows. Let's hope Rory's success with the paper will help her realize that she is meant to be a journalist, and that Mitchum was wrong.
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Post by inuvik on Mar 1, 2006 12:12:31 GMT -5
This seems to be a thread of two, but anyway Shmeep: Wow! I really liked last night's episode. I thought it was so sweet when after Logan left, he came back in and gave Rory a VERY romantic kiss and wished her luck. And she was fussing over him like a mother hen, in a good way. But then--I can't believe Rory left! She doesn't have a leg to stand on. If you "take a break", you see other people, and whatever happens, happens. What she should be concerned about is the NUMBER of people that Logan had sex with--3 people in like a couple of weeks? That's just slutty, and doesn't say much for his character. But they were not together, so the fact that he saw other people is fair. And wow--is Gigi ever a holy terror. At least Christopher now realizes it. Who want to bet that Zach and Laine will marry before Luke and Lorelai?
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Post by shmeep on Mar 3, 2006 10:14:26 GMT -5
But then--I can't believe Rory left! She doesn't have a leg to stand on. If you "take a break", you see other people, and whatever happens, happens. What she should be concerned about is the NUMBER of people that Logan had sex with--3 people in like a couple of weeks? That's just slutty, and doesn't say much for his character. But they were not together, so the fact that he saw other people is fair. That's fair if they AGREE they're even on a break. They had a fight and left and then Rory found out from Honor that Logan had been telling people they were broken up. They had made no formal agreement about anything and, in my opinion, being mad at each other is not the same thing as being on a break, unless they tell each other it's happening. As for Rory not having a leg to stand on, that's entirely up to her, even if they were officially on a break. She has every right to decide that Logan's break-time behavior was too despicable for her to handle. He obviously lost her respect and showed her something about himself she hadn't paid attention to in the past and now she's clear on who and what he is and she wants no part of that. Good for her! It wasn't just that he slept with several of his sister's friends, it was his attitude toward these girls, his complete lack of respect for them. It was also that he gave her no warning and put her in the position of hearing about it from them. That's just slimy. I think that if she discovered he had done something like this before they were even together, she would have every right to re-evaluate her feelings for him and to consider if that's the kind of person she wants in her future. I didn't take it to be just the question of whether or not he technically "cheated" on her. He obviously thought that was the whole issue at hand. Rory saw it as a good hard look at Logan's character and she didn't like what she found there. Very good episode! I'm glad she and Paris have made up and that Christopher is learning some parenting skills from Lorelai. I'm still frustrated that Lorelai hasn't been given the chance to bond with April yet. I'm not liking what they're doing to Luke's character because he's my favorite thing about the show. Lane and Zach are adorable! I love where they're taking that storyline. This show is still so so good!
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Post by inuvik on May 9, 2006 16:20:56 GMT -5
I read an article in the paper today. Amy Sherman-Palladino, the creator of Gilmore Girls, is leaving after today's episode. The writer felt that this could be a good thing as it might revitalize GG. He is not a fan, feels the show's clever rapid fire dialogue has lost its appeal. He is tired of the strung out Luke-Lorelai romance. And worst of all, he feels Amy's leaving could also be a bad thing, as GG "may become Everwood dull". (Don't insult my favorite show buddy! ) Next season definitely will be interesting. Also, can hardly wait for tonight's cliffhanger when Lorelai gives Luke what-for, finally!
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Post by inuvik on Aug 28, 2006 18:53:49 GMT -5
Posting this mainly so that the thread will move back to page one!
The season 7 premiere will be on Sept. 26, 2006.
I've been missing this Shmeep, how about you?
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Post by inuvik on Sept 27, 2006 15:40:56 GMT -5
Ok, I know most people on the Board don't watch Gilmore Girls, but there was such a fantastic parallel on last night that I wanted to share it.
Lorelai broke up with Luke, and slept with Rory's father in her sadness. However, Luke didn't think they were broken up so this really shocked him.
Last season, Rory and Logan had quite a fight and Logan thought they were broken up, while Rory didn't. Logan slept with several people and really shocked Rory.
On to thoughts. I can't believe Lorelai did it! When you give someone an ultimatum, you have been thinking about it for a while. But it is new to the recipient, Luke in this case. After only a day or two, he did the grand gesture she wanted, (eloping), and yet she wasn't satisfied. I feel for her, but I still think she's wrong.
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Post by hoosier on Sept 27, 2006 17:29:17 GMT -5
Tuesday night is really loaded, GG could not be taped. Why do they insist on putting every thing on the same night and same time I used to regularly watch this show and loved it. I was able to catch up some with reruns but of course most of the reruns were of shows I did get a chance to watch. Always the way! Luke and Lorelai eloped? Wow! She seemed like the perpetual runaway bride to me. Her problem is she doesn't know what she wants. Luke or Christopher? Marriage or being free and independent? When Luke bought that big house for the two of them, right then you could see there were going to be problems. More than anything, I believe she is afraid of having to live up to someone else's expectations ...or not having them live up to hers. I love the character but she would absolutely drive me insane after a while...that, or I would become just like her because, honestly, don't we all wish we could be just a little bit like her?
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Post by inuvik on Sept 28, 2006 14:14:53 GMT -5
Luke and Lorelai eloped? Wow! She seemed like the perpetual runaway bride to me. Her problem is she doesn't know what she wants. Luke or Christopher? Uh oh. Sorry, hoosier. I just re-read my last post and I guess it is unclear if you haven't seen the episode. The ultimatium Lorelai gave Luke at the end of last season was essentially, stop making excuses and marry me or else! He had been putting it off because of April (his newly discovered 12 year old daughter) and Lorelai was beginning to despair. Luke didn't like being put on the spot and he let her leave after the ultimatum without trying to stop her. On Tuesday, we learned that Lorelai considered it over, but Luke didn't. So that's why she slept with Christopher, she considered herself single. Then, later that day or the next day, Luke came by and wanted to elope right then! But she considered it too little too late. Now my post should make sense. So they are broken up for now, but who knows with this show? One of the many, many reasons I love this show is Lorelai. Aren't many of us torn between marriage and being free and independent? The eternal dilemma.
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Post by hoosier on Sept 28, 2006 17:17:28 GMT -5
On Tuesday, we learned that Lorelai considered it over, but Luke didn't. So that's why she slept with Christopher, she considered herself single. Then, later that day or the next day, Luke came by and wanted to elope right then! But she considered it too little too late. Thanks. I was surprised at that one (the elopement). As usual, Lorelai and her man of the moment are moving at cross purposes! When will these people ever learn to say what is really on their minds? It would clear up a lot of confusion and heartache but then, where would the dramatic tension be?
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Post by inuvik on Oct 23, 2006 10:56:37 GMT -5
I have been thinking a lot about last week's episode. Why do you think they are focusing on Luke and April? The show has always focused on Lorelai and Rory. Now that the 2 L's have split up, there's no reason to keep Luke as a main character.
I wonder if having April stay with Luke is a prelude to something. Maybe the mother will have to stay longer with April's grandmother? Will the writers get rid of her somehow? I just wonder if all of this will lead to Luke asking for help with April from Lorelai again, like he did for April's party. And then maybe she will be sort of a catalyst for them getting together again! I don't think Lorelai and Chris will last.
I love Luke as a father. He treats April like an adult, like a real person or a friend. Bravo!
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Post by shmeep on Oct 23, 2006 11:53:12 GMT -5
Ah! I almost forgot there's another Gilmore Girls fan on the board.
I have to comment on the focus on Luke. Whatever may go on with the Gilmores, Luke is the heart of the show and is the reason I even tune in. (My other reason? Mama Kim!) His gruff but sweet crankiness gets me every time. True, they did horrible things to his character last year, but he's back this year and almost as good as ever.
I'm with you on the whole Christopher matter. I'm sick of him always being there to screw things up in Lorelai's life, but hopefully this relationship will be brief and will put the truth (that she should be with Luke) into perspective for Lorelai. I really liked the concept that finally hit home with Lorelai last week. That she has always done whatever her parents didn't want her to do (duh, we always knew that!) but...to take it to a deeper level, it suddenly hit her that what her parents wanted may not have been bad and that what she thought she liked she might not have really liked. It was fun watching her try to sort through that one. Even more fun? Emily getting arrested and Lorelai's reaction to that.
I think the stories are as good as ever this year, but I do miss the Palledinos. The writing isn't as crisp this year and some of the excessive chattiness feels forced now--like the characters are just babbling for the sake of babbling and not because they have anything clever to say during the course of their rants. I've noticed this particularly with Sookie. Oh well. It's still pretty darn good. And Rory has finally stopped talking in that annoying baby voice.
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