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Post by kytdunne on May 8, 2006 4:05:31 GMT -5
I've always been curious about that bit. "How will you find the car?" In the Pilot, Jim was all for using his cane the day they went to visit Randy Lyman, leaving Hank to fester in the car. He would have just followed her, walking with her, using his cane. Correct? I never thought following her to the car would be that big of a deal, as Karen would have told him where it was when they got there. Sure, it's probably not as easy to walk with someone using a cane, but they could have a conversation, keep track of her... I just couldn't imagine that he would have to take her arm. Or don't blind people walk independently of their sighted friends without relying on them? In that crowd, sure it would be easier, but not a necessity, especially if he really wanted to play independent to make himself feel better. No offense to my darling German shepherd, but if guide dogs were really that much superior to cane travel, all blind people would use them, right? The question wasn't so much between cane travel and guide travel, as it was that Dunbar had turned down Bettancourt's help. Which, as presented, he needed. Even if everyone agreed (and they don't) that dog guides are superior to cane travel, the reality is that not everyone would opt for a dog due to the full-time requirements and responsibilities of having a dog. Kyt
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Post by Eyphur on May 8, 2006 10:05:42 GMT -5
I've always been curious about that bit. "How will you find the car?" In the Pilot, Jim was all for using his cane the day they went to visit Randy Lyman, leaving Hank to fester in the car. He would have just followed her, walking with her, using his cane. Correct? I never thought following her to the car would be that big of a deal, as Karen would have told him where it was when they got there. Sure, it's probably not as easy to walk with someone using a cane, but they could have a conversation, keep track of her... I just couldn't imagine that he would have to take her arm. Or don't blind people walk independently of their sighted friends without relying on them? In that crowd, sure it would be easier, but not a necessity, especially if he really wanted to play independent to make himself feel better. No offense to my darling German shepherd, but if guide dogs were really that much superior to cane travel, all blind people would use them, right? In Seoul Man, I thought that Jim pulled out his cane because he was having a bad day and wanted to be left alone.
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Post by hoosier on May 11, 2006 17:01:38 GMT -5
Just because I want to use some of the screencaps, let's do a Yun Family Pictoral History. Here's Papa Yun. Look at Papa run. Papa runs fast. Run, Papa, run! Even an old man can run faster if he flails his arms wildly. He also has a very good imagination, which he toutes every chance he gets. I have never noticed the man behind Jim before! I guess all my attention was on Jim and thinking how dare the shooter run into our "blonde dude" and make him spill the cup o' joe he had just gotten! Jim evidently didn't have time to make his own and needed a caffeine fix like 'right now'! Wonder if the man was surrendering to the flying coffee or maybe hoping that one of the hooded guy's flailing arms didn't make a grab for his cup since he had been unable to get Jim's before it hit the pavement! Love all these screencap updates. Have any plans for doing the other episodes. I look forward to seeing them and reading all your little asides.
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Post by Dreamfire on May 12, 2006 4:01:44 GMT -5
Thanks for these, Hoosier, Hey I just saiud your avatar name as I read it is it like "WHo is here?" I have just rewatched Seoul Man and I think episode has is my favourite ending at the moment. When he is unsure if Marty is going to physically attackk and he;s getting ready.. stillness, listening.. ready. After marty has left and he struggles to make sense of the confrontation. Has he moved forward? DId this meanthings would change? COuld he find a way to keep off Marty's very insecure toes? The aftermath. I think this is one of those moments we when get a glimpse into how very hard it realy is, and the mask has fallen for us. I assume we have all had moments like this, in out lives, echoing our own emotions this is great television.
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Post by Dreamfire on May 12, 2006 4:17:09 GMT -5
[quote author=greenbeing board=3 thread=1122651125 post=1147046085 I've always been curious about that bit. "How will you find the car?" In the Pilot, Jim was all for using his cane the day they went to visit Randy Lyman, leaving Hank to fester in the car. He would have just followed her, walking with her, using his cane. Correct? I never thought following her to the car would be that big of a deal, as Karen would have told him where it was when they got there. Sure, it's probably not as easy to walk with someone using a cane, but they could have a conversation, keep track of her... I just couldn't imagine that he would have to take her arm. Or don't blind people walk independently of their sighted friends without relying on them? In that crowd, sure it would be easier, but not a necessity, especially if he really wanted to play independent to make himself feel better. No offense to my darling German shepherd, but if guide dogs were really that much superior to cane travel, all blind people would use them, right? --GB [/quote] Thanks for those melting moment ( ooh freudian slip of the tounge!) missing moments, I especially likethe one where Jim sits in the light waiting for the ambulance and police. I just watched this ep again and what you say makes sense. Unless she was just rubbing his nose in it. As far as people walking with their friends, I had the idea that a cane user would usually use their cane even when being guided, and just modify it's sweep? And Jim giving in when she says "how will you find the car" is very unusal for our blonde dude. He very seldom backs down and usually when he's wrong which I just can't see here. And besides I thought they were off to do a canvass, not go to the car? Which I must admit I reckon would be quite difficult without Karen. maybe my ignorance is showing here but I can imagine him doing and canvass with Karen, I can even imagine him doing it with Hank, although my imagery get's a little thin there but whenI try to imagine him doing a canvass with justa cane - I can't. Can anyone help me out here? Natascha
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Post by hoosier on May 12, 2006 16:48:28 GMT -5
Thanks for these, Hoosier, Hey I just saiud your avatar name as I read it is it like "WHo is here?" You got it right ;D I live in Indiana, which is nicknamed the Hoosier State. They say it comes from the habit early pioneers had of calling out "who's there" when a stranger showed up at their door. I personally like the "Hoosier Poet" James Whitcomb Riley's rendition for the nickname. He wrote that one day someone walked into a tavern (this was back the early days when it was still a rough and tumble place), and he stumbled across the remains of a drunken brawl. "Whose ear?", the man asked finding the afore said item on the floor.
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Post by kytdunne on May 13, 2006 1:25:25 GMT -5
As far as people walking with their friends, I had the idea that a cane user would usually use their cane even when being guided, and just modify it's sweep? Not in my experience, but like anything else, it's up to the individual. Kyt
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Post by Dreamfire on May 13, 2006 5:55:05 GMT -5
Thanks Kyt. Do you have any take on why they had almost no cane travel for Jim in this series? Anyone?
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Post by awlrite4now on May 13, 2006 23:28:31 GMT -5
I think it's mainly because a cane is not warm and fuzzy like Hank, but that's just a guess. Jim would had to have mastered cane travel before he'd been eligible for getting a dog.
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Post by Dreamfire on May 14, 2006 1:18:16 GMT -5
I think it's mainly because a cane is not warm and fuzzy like Hank, but that's just a guess. Jim would had to have mastered cane travel before he'd been eligible for getting a dog. Thanks, I guess you're right. After all Hank is rather warm and fuzzy. And one can look here at the board as a micro populous and see how popular he was.
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Post by hoosier on May 15, 2006 16:47:30 GMT -5
I've always been curious about that bit. "How will you find the car?" In the Pilot, Jim was all for using his cane the day they went to visit Randy Lyman, leaving Hank to fester in the car. He would have just followed her, walking with her, using his cane. Correct? I never thought following her to the car would be that big of a deal, as Karen would have told him where it was when they got there. Sure, it's probably not as easy to walk with someone using a cane, but they could have a conversation, keep track of her... I just couldn't imagine that he would have to take her arm. Or don't blind people walk independently of their sighted friends without relying on them? In that crowd, sure it would be easier, but not a necessity, especially if he really wanted to play independent to make himself feel better. No offense to my darling German shepherd, but if guide dogs were really that much superior to cane travel, all blind people would use them, right? In Seoul Man, I thought that Jim pulled out his cane because he was having a bad day and wanted to be left alone. I also agree that Jim wanted some time alone but thinking on it, how would he find the car? I think he had become rather complacent, relying on Karen to guide him practically everywhere so he might not have paid close enough attention to where they had parked to find it on his own, that and the fact he was probably beating himself up again because the perp had gotten away and another man had been murdered and so was distracted. We know that they crossed at least one street to get to the grocery, I couldn't tell how far they did come. Later, after the blow-up with Nick, you do see Jim becoming more independent, choosing to go off with Hank to meet people without Karen coming along.
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Post by hoosier on Jun 21, 2006 16:47:11 GMT -5
When Jim told Christie that he had been trying to remember how long it had been since he had bought her flowers, didn't she say a year and a half? If so, that one year would be since the shooting, when he was a little preoccupied. That additional six months--before or after Anne??? He met Anne and didn't have time to bring his wife flowers? After Anne and he was feeling remorse, guilt, wanted to try and make up but the damage was already done and the marriage on rocky ground?
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Post by hoosier on Aug 19, 2006 15:50:56 GMT -5
Just noticed that the name of the Korean grocery was J and A Grocery. Interesting that Mr. Lee had his store name in English when he was so tradition bound in his private life!
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Post by hoosier on Sept 12, 2006 17:50:25 GMT -5
Whats up with the chief of d's? In Fisk's office, he tells Jim that a civilian had called in a report that he had drawn his gun on the street and then asks him if that were true. Did he expect him to lie about it? Jim did pause ever so slightly, as if he did seriously consider not owning up to it but, in the end, did the right thing and admitted it. What would the chief had done if Jim had lied about it? Left it to Fisk to write him up for disciplinary action or done something himself? He did make a point of telling him that Galloway had not turned in his final evaluation on Jim's fitness for duty to the commissioner--insinuating that that might give them some leverage with which to either tie Jim to a desk, take his weapon or get him off the force all-together. Thoughts???
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Post by mlm828 on Dec 3, 2006 22:07:59 GMT -5
I recently watched the scene between Jim and Galloway, and this part of it (quoted from shmeep's recap) started me thinking:
In the seven post-"Seoul Man" episodes, we don't really see any follow-up on the italicized statement. Yes, Jim gives up the gun, but we don't see anything to indicate he feels he no longer has anything to prove or is considering whether he still wants or needs to be a cop. But there are very few "throw-away" lines in Blind Justice -- especially from Dr. Galloway.
We now know, thanks to longlashes, that 22 episodes were shot. I can't help wondering if Dr. Galloway's statement somehow plays a role in those episodes. I admit it seems out of character for Jim to give up being a cop, after having fought so hard to be reinstated and to prove he could still do the job. In addition, Jim deciding he no longer has anything to prove and no longer wants or needs to be a cop would mean the end of the series. On the other hand, we have no idea what might have happened in those 9 episodes to change Jim's thinking. And maybe the fulfillment of Galloway's statement has something to do with Jim's "embracing his blindness" -- something that I don't think took place in episodes 1 through 13. Besides, given what we know now about the making and airing of the series, the people who made Blind Justice probably knew one season was all they were likely to get. Edited to add: Another possibility is that Jim decides he has nothing to prove and thinks about quitting, then decides against it.
Thoughts, anyone?
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