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Post by inuvik on Oct 14, 2005 13:07:48 GMT -5
This is one of my favourite episodes as it is so nice to see Jim helping someone else. I also loves the way he is so changed near the end, even joking about his blindness!
There is something I have wondered about this episode for a while and would like your opinion. Do you think that the "helper" of Artie's nephew realized Jim was blind when he was interrogating her? There is just the one scene with them, and he is wearing his shades (trying to intimidate her). I think she may not know.
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Post by inuvik on Oct 17, 2005 15:55:36 GMT -5
There is something I have wondered about this episode for a while and would like your opinion. Do you think that the "helper" of Artie's nephew realized Jim was blind when he was interrogating her? There is just the one scene with them, and he is wearing his shades (trying to intimidate her). I think she may not know. Does no one have any thoughts on this? That's hard to believe for this board  |
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Post by shmeep on Oct 17, 2005 16:26:20 GMT -5
There is something I have wondered about this episode for a while and would like your opinion. Do you think that the "helper" of Artie's nephew realized Jim was blind when he was interrogating her? There is just the one scene with them, and he is wearing his shades (trying to intimidate her). I think she may not know. Does no one have any thoughts on this? That's hard to believe for this board Good point! ;D It never occurred to me that she wouldn't know. I feel that if that were the case, they wouldn't have been so subtle about it. I know. It's a subtle show. But I just believe in my heart that she knew. Logical? Of course not. I think the glasses alone are a clue. Sighted people don't tend to wear them inside and they make him LOOK blind. The show was pretty good about showing people noticing right away most of the time. He got a lot of subtle double-takes. |
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Post by Eyphur on Oct 17, 2005 19:58:32 GMT -5
I allways just assumed she knew. I don't know why, perhaps because I know that Dunbar is blind?
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Post by Katryna on Oct 17, 2005 20:39:11 GMT -5
There is something I have wondered about this episode for a while and would like your opinion. Do you think that the "helper" of Artie's nephew realized Jim was blind when he was interrogating her? There is just the one scene with them, and he is wearing his shades (trying to intimidate her). I think she may not know. I think she knew. However, did Kent Newell in Four Feet Under realize Jim was blind? He held up his thumb to Jim to show him that he had been burned. |
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Post by shmeep on Oct 17, 2005 20:44:20 GMT -5
I think she knew. However, did Kent Newell in Four Feet Under realize Jim was blind? He held up his thumb to Jim to show him that he had been burned. That was a case in which the writers made it very clear that someone didn't know. It's the only time I can think of that that happened in the series. The look on Karen's face when Kent held up that thumb seems to me like the moment she realized just how mentally deficient this man was. Even Jim seemed to have some kind of sense that Kent was doing something like that. |
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Post by kytdunne on Oct 18, 2005 2:36:55 GMT -5
There is something I have wondered about this episode for a while and would like your opinion. Do you think that the "helper" of Artie's nephew realized Jim was blind when he was interrogating her? There is just the one scene with them, and he is wearing his shades (trying to intimidate her). I think she may not know. Yeah, she knew. It's unlikely that blindness, alone, causes a particular reaction in her, it's not like talking to a blind guy is anything new. Being interrogated by a couple of cops would override any weight the blindness would have (unlike so many of the other people Dunbar & Bettancourt interviewed). And, they all had to meet and get into and out of the interrogation room, so there were interactions we didn't see. Kyt |
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Post by kytdunne on Oct 18, 2005 2:42:01 GMT -5
However, did Kent Newell in Four Feet Under realize Jim was blind? He held up his thumb to Jim to show him that he had been burned. I thought he did, but it didn't fully register at all times, and/or just didn't really mean anything immediate to him. But even Russo held up a warrant for Dunbar to see, and Dunbar's blindness was a serious sticking point for him. So for someone that's not quite all there.... Kyt (who forgot that the idea of Dunbar giving driving lessons probably wasn't such a hot plan) |
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Post by hoosier on Oct 18, 2005 16:09:46 GMT -5
I figured that she knew--she worked with Pete who wasn't totally blind--but like the others said, being interrogated by the cops was way more intimidating.
To me Kent Newell was like a big kid--a kid with serious problems--but still a kid in his mind and that is why he held his thumb up, like any kid will show an adult where the hurt is.
What I really came away with from Dance was how involved Jim became with Pete. Of course the trouble with Charlotte was legal but he put himself out there and took a risk helping a total stranger with a personal problem.
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Post by mlm828 on Oct 18, 2005 16:25:13 GMT -5
What I really came away with from Dance was how involved Jim became with Pete. Of course the trouble with Charlotte was legal but he put himself out there and took a risk helping a total stranger with a personal problem. Me, too. Another aspect of Jim's interaction with Pete that I found interesting was seeing how Jim interacted with another blind person. Talking with another blind person, Jim was more open about his blindness and how he deals with it than with any other character except Christie (sometimes). |
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Post by greenbeing on Oct 22, 2005 13:52:35 GMT -5
Chopsticks? That's my question. Most of my friends claim they would die of starvation while eating with chopsticks. And they can see. So I'm just wondering, how feasible is that? Maybe native New Yorkers are just awesomely proficient with chopsticks from birth... But if I couldn't see what I was picking up... The food slips out all the time anyway. Talk about frustrating--new diet technique.
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Post by hoosier on Oct 22, 2005 16:50:32 GMT -5
The only time I used chopsticks was at a dinner after a Bible School class when I was a kid. They served us popcorn--guess they thought that would be safe--it went all over the room! I don't even want to attempt real live food!
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Post by housemouse on Oct 23, 2005 11:55:12 GMT -5
I don't think that the helper (what was her name?) was even thinking about whether or not Jim could see. Kyt is right, it would have been immaterial to her, she was caught.
I never thought about it much, but I would bet Newell had no idea Jim couldn't see.
Living on a coast, I eat sushi fairly regularly and I have become rather proficient with chopsticks. I think it is possible that a blind Jim could use them pretty easily. It just takes practice, and I am sure he has had plenty. At one point someone pointed out how impressive Eldard is in that scene (sorry I can't remember who made the point). They noted he is a sited guy pretending to be blind while sitting on the floor eating Chinese food with chopsticks, no easy feat!
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Post by shmeep on Oct 23, 2005 12:29:43 GMT -5
At one point someone pointed out how impressive Eldard is in that scene (sorry I can't remember who made the point). They noted he is a sited guy pretending to be blind while sitting on the floor eating Chinese food with chopsticks, no easy feat! Psst! (hint) Rhymes with BLEEP. |
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Post by bjobsessed on Oct 23, 2005 12:33:33 GMT -5
At one point someone pointed out how impressive Eldard is in that scene (sorry I can't remember who made the point). They noted he is a sited guy pretending to be blind while sitting on the floor eating Chinese food with chopsticks, no easy feat! Psst! (hint) Rhymes with BLEEP. LOL! I love it! |
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