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Post by doobrah on Aug 8, 2005 13:56:30 GMT -5
Not really a blooper, but they have the same dinnerware:
In the beginning of "Four Feet Under," Jim is carrying a distinctive blue coffee mug in the first scene. In "In Your Face," Joan Tuxhorn brings Dunbar some tea in the same kind of mug!
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Post by Katryna on Aug 8, 2005 15:58:37 GMT -5
This next one I need another opinion on: When Karen and Jim are seen arriving at the scene of the second grocery store crime, they cross a street. Watch carefully - Jim has no problem stepping onto the curb after they cross the street, even though it does not appear that Karen cues him that they are at the curb. Any thoughts? Being half-a-step behind, Dunbar's going to feel the motion in her arm, as she steps up/down, and since they do this day in and day out, I expect he's gotten so familiar with her movements, that he doesn't need the verbal in all cases. Some of the signals don't need to be verbal, for instance, Karen can drop her arm back so Dunbar knows to fall into step behind her for a narrow passage. Kyt Thanks, Kyt, for clarifying this for me.
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Post by lmoney on Aug 8, 2005 22:00:31 GMT -5
Thanks to you both! I didn't think about the movement that might occur with Karen being slightly ahead of him. You certainly cleared that one up for me.
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Post by kytdunne on Aug 9, 2005 1:28:45 GMT -5
I used to lead a blind friend around quite a lot and he told me early on that he didn't need verbal cues because, being half a step behind, he could just tell when I was going up or down and by how much. I got so I didn't even think about it. Karen, being such a "natural," would have picked up on this rather quickly. One of the first people I ever guided was a lady who speed-walked through the crowds and had no patience for slowing down for such small things as curbs or a family in the way. If I didn't go around someone or something, she'd try to push us *through.* Not something that went over very well with me, and my objection got met with hers. Enlightening, but irritating, situation all around. Kyt
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Post by rducasey on Aug 11, 2005 21:13:22 GMT -5
Another blooper? At the end of Under the Gun, when Jim is talking about all the things he has had to give up, and Christy says, "Maybe that is just acceptance, " and Jim says "Yeah and when does it end?" The word end is repeated twice as the camera angle changes. He says "Yeah and when does it end, end and when it does , what will be left. "
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Post by doobrah on Aug 17, 2005 13:21:09 GMT -5
In "Past Imperfect," after Nick dumps Karen, Marty tries to console her: "You are a catch."
Karen clearly replies, "Thanks, Frank," which is the actor's real name (but the captions say, "Thanks, Marty."). OOPS!
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Post by mlm828 on Aug 17, 2005 15:35:13 GMT -5
I am wondering if Jim's first session with Dr. Galloway, which appears in the second episode, "Four Feet Under," was originally intended to be in the Pilot. Some parts of the dialogue seem to make more sense if the session was taking place on the evening of his first day back on the job. For example, Jim tells Galloway Fisk was frosty at first but warmed up to him "by the end of the day." This implies Jim had only been on the job for a day, but by the second episode, he's been on the job for several days at least. (I don't know for certain how much time elapsed between the first and second episodes).
If you need an excuse to watch this episode again, please take a look and post your thoughts on this question.
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Post by doobrah on Aug 17, 2005 15:57:52 GMT -5
I am wondering if Jim's first session with Dr. Galloway, which appears in the second episode, "Four Feet Under," was originally intended to be in the Pilot. Some parts of the dialogue seem to make more sense if the session was taking place on the evening of his first day back on the job. For example, Jim tells Galloway Fisk was frosty at first but warmed up to him "by the end of the day." This implies Jim had only been on the job for a day, but by the second episode, he's been on the job for several days at least. (I don't know for certain how much time elapsed between the first and second episodes). I mentioned this on that other board and a person who had an early version of the pilot script said, yeah, the Galloway scene was originally in the pilot. I had noticed that Jim's haircut and color at Galloway's matched his cut'n'color from the pilot. It was longer & lighter in the rest of the second episode and the Galloway scene just didn't match. So not only was it intended in the original script for the pilot, but was shot for the pilot as well (based on the hair -- and don't get me started on my fetish with hair...).
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Post by housemouse on Aug 17, 2005 16:39:06 GMT -5
I had noticed that Jim's haircut and color at Galloway's matched his cut'n'color from the pilot. It was longer & lighter in the rest of the second episode and the Galloway scene just didn't match. So not only was it intended in the original script for the pilot, but was shot for the pilot as well (based on the hair -- and don't get me started on my fetish with hair...). Wow! You must be a stickler for details!
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Post by doobrah on Aug 17, 2005 17:37:31 GMT -5
I had noticed that Jim's haircut and color at Galloway's matched his cut'n'color from the pilot. It was longer & lighter in the rest of the second episode and the Galloway scene just didn't match. So not only was it intended in the original script for the pilot, but was shot for the pilot as well (based on the hair -- and don't get me started on my fetish with hair...). Wow! You must be a stickler for details! You betcha, baby!! Especially when it comes to the talented Mr. E! It had been a looong, lonely Ron drought since he was last on TV... and all those teasing BJ promos leading up to the Pilot had me like Pavlov's dog.... sluuuuurp!!
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Post by rducasey on Aug 18, 2005 6:17:17 GMT -5
OK maybe it's time I learned to do that quote thing, but MLM and Doobrah ,excellent observation about the meeting with Galloway having originally been in the pilot. I have been doing a "shirt and Tie" observation and inventory just to see if he ever wears the same ones twice (all are either light blue or dark colored, have not seen a yellow or brown (except perhaps that day at the bank, which I believe is brown, unless it's my tv set)). So.......I checked and yes, the shirt and tie on the first day in Fisk's office (light blue shirt with darker speckled blue tie) is, in fact, the same one he has on in Galloway's office in Episode 2. And it doesn't match what he had on earlier in the day on episode 2. Also in this episode, as I have mentioned already as a blooper, Fisk tells him to "report today at 5:00 to Lefrak" when in fact that is the day of Clay's party and he doesn't go to Galloway until the next day. (Just a side note, my personal favorite, hottest, shirt and tie combination, is in the last episode, the light blue shirt with the green/blue striped tie, worn with the dark blue pinstripe suit-Yowza!)
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Post by housemouse on Aug 19, 2005 12:42:11 GMT -5
Here's what I noticed. The picture here: ... and the picture here: ... are both in the ABC photo gallery for the Pilot episode. There is definately a blooper here, there was an editing issue for sure!
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Post by housemouse on Aug 19, 2005 12:43:30 GMT -5
... are both in the ABC photo gallery for the Pilot episode. There is definately a blooper here, there was an editing issue for sure! Ok, I'll come clean, this post was just an excuse to use screencaps.
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Post by doobrah on Aug 19, 2005 12:58:27 GMT -5
Ok, I'll come clean, this post was just an excuse to use screencaps. Oh, come on -- who needs an excuse?
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Post by awlrite4now on Aug 19, 2005 13:49:42 GMT -5
Do you wonder if maybe the pilot might have originally been intended to be either a 90 minute show or a two hour feature? That used to be a common thing with new concept shows, but doesn't happen so much any more.
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