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Post by shmeep on Aug 1, 2005 14:52:02 GMT -5
I like the oops thread. Let's start one. I noticed that too in Four Feet Under. First he's in the crosswalk, then he's not, first he has his briefcase then he doesn't. I love the idea of an oops thread! However... There's also a blooper when after he's been lost and the drug dealers took Hank....He comes back to the station and gets a drink of water from the drinking fountain. First his glasses are on then he takes them off and the next scene they are back on his face and he didn't put them back on. While there are a lot of editing oddities throughout the series, I took that particular one to be an artistic choice. It's the only time in the series that Jim seems about to cry but it jumps ahead to him looking composed and under control. It seemed to me like a powerful statement about how hard he had to try to cover those pesky feelings. Like even we, the audience, weren't to be privy to Jim's raw emotions.
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Post by doobrah on Aug 1, 2005 16:00:35 GMT -5
In Four Feet Under, at the end when Christie is sitting on the bed getting ready to leave Jim, the editors have flopped the film for RE's part. The window is on the opposite side, and the part in his hair is now on the other side, and the crease on the left side of his face is now on his right. ( I'll say it again -- I really need a life!). Can't figure out if they changed the blocking halfway through the shoot but still liked the other take....
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Post by mlm828 on Aug 1, 2005 16:52:22 GMT -5
I don't know if this qualifies as a "blooper," but it caught my attention. In "In Your Face," when Jim is using the gadget to ID his money, he has arrived home before Christie. (She arrives during the scene). There are lights on throughout the apartment, when he is there alone.
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Post by lmoney on Aug 1, 2005 17:31:32 GMT -5
sorry to back track- but I agree with Shmeep about the so called 'water cooler' blooper I think it wasn't a blooper at all, but a way to show up he was back in control. They cut scenes a lot in this series and I think this was just another one. They cut scenes in the pilot when he was at the precinct at night learning his way around. I think they cut it for time and effect. We didn't need to see every step he took or everything he bumped into. At the water cooler, I think the shot is cut to show us the passage of time and that he is now back in control and has his wits about him.
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Post by kenina on Aug 1, 2005 18:01:42 GMT -5
Oh, I can point out tons of bloopers/nitpicks - yes, I am a nitpicker at heart. Some of my personal "favorites": --For some odd reason at the end of "Dance With Me" when Jim goes to ask the favor of Bostic at the fire station, he's wearing his trench coat, which he hasn't worn for 2 or 3 episodes. --All of the editing on "In Your Face," especially Jim asking if the book on the shelf is from the library, without his lips moving. Also the bar scene at the end has Tom speaking while drinking beer, and several shots that are poorly strung together. --In "Under the Gun," if Jim went straight to dance class then straight to the restaurant as he later claimed, where was Hank?! --I always laugh when watching the Christie-leaves-Jim scene in "Four Feet Under," because she forgets to take her bag with her when she rushes out. --Jim's moving locker, which has already been discussed on the Yahoo group. Sometimes it's in the front, sometimes in the back. Okay, now I've drawn a blank, but I'll probably be back as I watch and remember.
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Post by kenina on Aug 1, 2005 18:07:00 GMT -5
I don't know if this qualifies as a "blooper," but it caught my attention. In "In Your Face," when Jim is using the gadget to ID his money, he has arrived home before Christie. (She arrives during the scene). There are lights on throughout the apartment, when he is there alone. I noticed that, too! Very amusing. I guess you can explain it partly by just assuming that he would *know* he was sitting there in the dark and wouldn't want to do that, or would turn them on in anticipation of Christie's arrival. But there were really a *lot* of lights on, and in different places all over the kitchen and dining room. He would've had to go to a lot of trouble to turn on that many lights, and frankly, why bother? LOL
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Post by mlm828 on Aug 1, 2005 18:54:03 GMT -5
Reportedly, a film crew can be seen in one of the overhead shots when Jim is lost in New Jersey in "Doggone." I've looked for it but never spotted it. Has anyone seen it?
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Post by kenina on Aug 1, 2005 19:28:14 GMT -5
Reportedly, a film crew can be seen in one of the overhead shots when Jim is lost in New Jersey in "Doggone." I've looked for it but never spotted it. Has anyone seen it? I never have spotted the crewmember, but I did spot that exact scene location in a recent episode of NCIS. I did a massive double-take and then saved the episode to my TiVo immediately and went back and watched again. :-)
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Post by awlrite4now on Aug 1, 2005 20:31:35 GMT -5
Reportedly, a film crew can be seen in one of the overhead shots when Jim is lost in New Jersey in "Doggone." I've looked for it but never spotted it. Has anyone seen it? I never have spotted the crewmember, but I did spot that exact scene location in a recent episode of NCIS. I did a massive double-take and then saved the episode to my TiVo immediately and went back and watched again. :-) Interesting, especially since NCIS is on CBS.
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Post by rducasey on Aug 1, 2005 20:41:56 GMT -5
I checked out the argument scene with Christy at the end of Four Feet Under and as Doobrah pointed out they flipped the film for RE and I never noticed that before. Watch as the buttons on his raincoat go from the right to the left side and back again. Does that mean that the scar jumps from the left side to the right side? I guess I will just have to rewatch to see.
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Post by rducasey on Aug 1, 2005 22:17:18 GMT -5
Also another blooper in Four Feet Under, Fisk orders Jim to see Dr. Galloway that afternoon at 5:00. In fact he goes to Clay's dinner party that night and his meeting with Galloway is the next afternoon.
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Post by Katryna on Aug 6, 2005 20:43:23 GMT -5
Two more oddities, both from Seoul Man:
In the outdoor shots when they are at both of the scenes of the grocery store shootings the trees are in full leaf. When Karen and Jim are driving to the father's apartment to interview him, as well as when they walk out his front door - the trees are bare.
This next one I need another opinion on: When Karen and Jim are seen arriving at the scene of the second grocery store crime, they cross a street. Watch carefully - Jim has no problem stepping onto the curb after they cross the street, even though it does not appear that Karen cues him that they are at the curb. Any thoughts?
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Post by lmoney on Aug 7, 2005 22:51:29 GMT -5
I noticed the curb one too, Kathy Karen does not seem to give him any cues. It is either a blooper- or Jim has mastered the art of hearing her footsteps change tone as she lifts her feet onto the curb. Seems like a stretch to me?
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Post by kytdunne on Aug 8, 2005 1:31:58 GMT -5
This next one I need another opinion on: When Karen and Jim are seen arriving at the scene of the second grocery store crime, they cross a street. Watch carefully - Jim has no problem stepping onto the curb after they cross the street, even though it does not appear that Karen cues him that they are at the curb. Any thoughts? Being half-a-step behind, Dunbar's going to feel the motion in her arm, as she steps up/down, and since they do this day in and day out, I expect he's gotten so familiar with her movements, that he doesn't need the verbal in all cases. Some of the signals don't need to be verbal, for instance, Karen can drop her arm back so Dunbar knows to fall into step behind her for a narrow passage. Kyt
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Post by shmeep on Aug 8, 2005 7:24:03 GMT -5
Being half-a-step behind, Dunbar's going to feel the motion in her arm, as she steps up/down, and since they do this day in and day out, I expect he's gotten so familiar with her movements, that he doesn't need the verbal in all cases. Some of the signals don't need to be verbal, for instance, Karen can drop her arm back so Dunbar knows to fall into step behind her for a narrow passage. Kyt Thank you, Kyt! I was just about to say the same thing. I used to lead a blind friend around quite a lot and he told me early on that he didn't need verbal cues because, being half a step behind, he could just tell when I was going up or down and by how much. I got so I didn't even think about it. Karen, being such a "natural," would have picked up on this rather quickly.
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