Blooper Reel

[rducasey]

You know along those same lines, I recently noticed that the preview at the end of the pilot is for episode three (Carl Desmond and Mary Beth). Is it possible that pilot and episode two were originally meant to be one? Then at the end of episode two, the same preview is shown for episode three. hhmmmmmm......

[doobrah]

awlrite4now said:

Do you wonder if maybe the pilot might have originally been intended to be either a 90 minute show or a two hour feature? That used to be a common thing with new concept shows, but doesn't happen so much any more.

Yeah. I had wondered the same thing. If, for some reason, the series fell through, they would at least have enough for a 90-minute or 2-hr stand alone movie.

I wonder if a foreign network doesn't want 13 episodes, if they would recut it to be a 90 min or 2-hr standalone movie? What else would they toss in there to make it longer, and what resolution would it have to make it a satisfying 1-off?

[rducasey]

Jim's computer bag which is on his shoulder when he leaves home in episode two and is not there when he gets hit by the bike riding delivery man, also disappears again in Seoul Man. He has it with him when the grocer gets shot and seems to put it on the ground when he tells Hank to wait outside. However when he leaves with Karen later, yup, no bag.

[Katryna]

rducasey said:

OK maybe it's time I learned to do that quote thing, but MLM and Doobrah ,excellent observation about the meeting with Galloway having originally been in the pilot. I have been doing a "shirt and Tie" observation and inventory just to see if he ever wears the same ones twice (all are either light blue or dark colored, have not seen a yellow or brown (except perhaps that day at the bank, which I believe is brown, unless it's my tv set)). So.......I checked and yes, the shirt and tie on the first day in Fisk's office (light blue shirt with darker speckled blue tie) is, in fact, the same one he has on in Galloway's office in Episode 2. And it doesn't match what he had on earlier in the day on episode 2. Also in this episode, as I have mentioned already as a blooper, Fisk tells him to "report today at 5:00 to Lefrak" when in fact that is the day of Clay's party and he doesn't go to Galloway until the next day. (Just a side note, my personal favorite, hottest, shirt and tie combination, is in the last episode, the light blue shirt with the green/blue striped tie, worn with the dark blue pinstripe suit-Yowza!)

I am SO glad you have done this because I was thinking about doing it, but now don't have to. I think I AM going to take notes on Christie's wardrobe, though. Other than the pilot, she seems to always wear sleeveless dresses - almost spaghetti straps - and low cut necklines, especially when going out socially. I wonder who makes the wardrobe decisions. Rena Sofer is certainly attractive enough to pull this off, but I just find it odd. I wonder if this is to emphasize the previously physical (visual) attraction that she would have had for Jim and that she still relies on that heavily in her social interactions.

[mlm828]

In "Seoul Man," Dr. Galloway tells Jim, "You've got to stop fighting so hard to prove that you're not the same 'cause you're not. Absolutely things you cannot do anymore."

Did he misspeak? It makes more sense to me for Galloway to say (omitting the first "not"), "You've got to stop fighting so hard to prove that you're the same 'cause you're not." Or am I missing something?

[rducasey]

And speaking of "wardrobe malfunctions", what does the wardrobe crew have against Marty? Yikes, he has some really bad shirt and tie combo. And Kathy do you agree with me, that last shirt and tie on Jim in episode 13- HOT or WHAT?

[Katryna]

rducasey said:

And speaking of "wardrobe malfunctions", what does the wardrobe crew have against Marty? Yikes, he has some really bad shirt and tie combo. And Kathy do you agree with me, that last shirt and tie on Jim in episode 13- HOT or WHAT?

HOT, but I think he looks HOT no matter what he wears!

[rducasey]

mlm828 said:

In "Seoul Man," Dr. Galloway tells Jim, "You've got to stop fighting so hard to prove that you're not the same 'cause you're not. Absolutely things you cannot do anymore."

Did he misspeak? It makes more sense to me for Galloway to say (omitting the first "not"), "You've got to stop fighting so hard to prove that you're the same 'cause you're not." Or am I missing something?

I have that same thought everytime I watch this episode. You're right, I think he was suppose to say, "to prove that you're the same, cause you're not"

[dogma]

kathy said:

rducasey said:

And speaking of "wardrobe malfunctions", what does the wardrobe crew have against Marty? Yikes, he has some really bad shirt and tie combo. And Kathy do you agree with me, that last shirt and tie on Jim in episode 13- HOT or WHAT?

HOT, but I think he looks HOT no matter what he wears!

the less clothes the better,, this show missed alot of golden opportunities w/ such a bod,, sigh,,

[montrealslp]

the less clothes the better,, this show missed alot of golden opportunities w/ such a bod,, sigh,, [/quote]

I couldn't agree more!

Just thought I'd add that I have seen the film crew in the Hoboken scene when Jim (I mean "Ted") is abandoned there.

Also, in that same episode (Doggone), once Jim gets back to the squad room he tells the squad to be careful because Sonny said the thugs were heavily armed. To my knowledge, Sonny never said that and it appeared that we were privy to everything Sonny could possibly have said to Jim before he left Jim in Hoboken. Seems like a blooper to me.

-Myra

[dogma]

montrealslp said:

Also, in that same episode (Doggone), once Jim gets back to the squad room he tells the squad to be careful because Sonny said the thugs were heavily armed. To my knowledge, Sonny never said that and it appeared that we were privy to everything Sonny could possibly have said to Jim before he left Jim in Hoboken. Seems like a blooper to me.

-Myra

i noticed that , too,, a long time ago,, it does mention it if you use closed caption,, but not in the audio,, baaaad editing

[doobrah]

mlm828 said:

In "Seoul Man," Dr. Galloway tells Jim, "You've got to stop fighting so hard to prove that you're not the same 'cause you're not. Absolutely things you cannot do anymore."

Did he misspeak? It makes more sense to me for Galloway to say (omitting the first "not"), "You've got to stop fighting so hard to prove that you're the same 'cause you're not." Or am I missing something?

You know, that line has bothered me from the beginning. Every time I hear it, I know the actor stuck in one too many nots.

[mlm828]

In "Fancy Footwork," when Jim decides to give up the gun and puts it away in his locker, he first takes the bullets out of the gun and puts them in his left hand. We never see what he did with the bullets, but they aren't in his hand in the next shot.

[housemouse]

I figured out why I thought the first visit to Galloway was in the Pilot and then edited into Four Feet Under.

In Four Feet Under Fisk calls Jim into his office and gives him a dressing down and telling him to meet Galloway after work that day. Cut to that evening - Jim and Christie at the party. The episode continues and at the end - the end of Jim's next day at work - Jim is meeting with Galloway.

Hmm, slight continuity error there.

[mlm828]

In "Marlon's Brando," when Jim tells Christie, "This isn't easy," her response is, "Not alone it isn't." Huh? I know that she means, "It isn't easy, alone," but that's not what she said. Those pesky double negatives! Not sure if it's sloppy writing or a slip of the tongue on her part.

This may not qualify as a blooper, but it's a pet peeve of mine. The characters use "jail" and "prison" interchangeably, but they're different. The characters, being mostly cops and criminals, would know the difference. In most instances, when they say "jail," they mean "prison." In "Marlon's Brando," Mattis is in prison but says he is in "jail," and I'm sure he knows the difference. I wonder why the executive producer who is a retired cop didn't catch this.