Blooper Reel

[mlm828]

housemouse said:

kenina said:

So I'm watching "Dance With Me" trying to write a recap (yes, I am working on it, shmeep!! ), and I noticed that the third time Jim talks to Pete--when he tells him that he is blind and needs to face the facts, and they end up cleaning the apartment--Jim sits down right before he says he thought about killing himself. But we have to assume he'd never been in that spot in the apartment before or spent time familiarizing himself with the layout--so how did he know there was a ledge or something to sit on there?? He doesn't seem to feel it out or be otherwise uncertain about where he's sitting.

Every time I watch Dance with Me I wonder about that too. I have decided that he just "hunkered down." That's what my dad calls it when you bend your knees in a low squat and relax there.

I noticed that, too. I just watched the scene again, and in one shot, you can see that Jim is sitting on something, possibly an ottoman. When he stands up, it's also clear that he was sitting. But there is no explanation of how he knew the ottoman was there.

[shmeep]

kenina said:

So I'm watching "Dance With Me" trying to write a recap (yes, I am working on it, shmeep!! ), and I noticed that the third time Jim talks to Pete--when he tells him that he is blind and needs to face the facts, and they end up cleaning the apartment--Jim sits down right before he says he thought about killing himself. But we have to assume he'd never been in that spot in the apartment before or spent time familiarizing himself with the layout--so how did he know there was a ledge or something to sit on there?? He doesn't seem to feel it out or be otherwise uncertain about where he's sitting.

Here's what I think happened: Jim was backed up against it and felt it with the backs of his legs. He did sit gingerly, as if making sure he wasn't going to be sitting on a lot of junk, but often blind people discreetly feel for seats with their legs. I always just assumed that was the case here and, since we don't know otherwise, that's what I have decided to believe.

[mlm828]

admin said:

Here's what I think happened: Jim was backed up against it and felt it with the backs of his legs. He did sit gingerly, as if making sure he wasn't going to be sitting on a lot of junk, but often blind people discreetly feel for seats with their legs. I always just assumed that was the case here and, since we don't know otherwise, that's what I have decided to believe.

I agree that's the most likely explanation, but when I watched the scene, I looked for something like that and didn't see it. He must have done it very discreetly!

[rducasey]

I also always noticed the way he would sit down without feeling for a seat. In that apartment that could be dangerous. And Jim in those designer suits.
However, it is in the next part of that scene that I feel there is a blooper. Some of Pete's dialogue seems to be cut.
He says "I was studying for a contractor's license. (Here's where I felt something is missing) then he says ( cooking and cleaning and riding the bus) Nooffence but I'm not a cripple. I understand what he is saying but from the way the scene is edited, I feel that a line or two has been eliminated. Each time I watch that scene I get the feeling it has been poorly edited

[mlm828]

Here's another goof, from "Marlon's Brando." In the squad room, before Jim and Karen leave to "sit on" Condell's apartment, they are told it is in the East Village, which was in Manhattan the last time I checked. When they are crossing the street from the car to Condell's building, we see lower Manhattan in the distance, as if they are in Brooklyn. Later, when Jim calls for an ambulance after Condell shoots himself, he says they are at an address in Brooklyn.

[kenina]

mlm828 said:

Here's another goof, from "Marlon's Brando." In the squad room, before Jim and Karen leave to "sit on" Condell's apartment, they are told it is in the East Village, which was in Manhattan the last time I checked. When they are crossing the street from the car to Condell's building, we see lower Manhattan in the distance, as if they are in Brooklyn. Later, when Jim calls for an ambulance after Condell shoots himself, he says they are at an address in Brooklyn.

Ahhh...can't believe I never made that connection! I did, however, slightly obsessively, look up the intersection where Karen and Jim get out of the car. Best I can tell, based on the "Myrtle St" street sign and the storefront on the corner that appears to reads "Supper Club," I think it's the Five Spot Supper Club at Washington and Myrtle in Brooklyn. (I looked it up so I can go visit it when I'm in NYC in October!)

[housemouse]

In Seoul Man Tom and Marty chase the suspect through most of the clothing manufacturer where he works. They run for a good two minutes, jumping over things, and finally running down a staircase. When the fellow finally falls after tripping over a stack of something, Marty and Tom are right there to nab him. They grab him, pick him up and shove him against the wall to start interrogating him. There is only one problem, none of them are out of breath. They are all talking like they were out for a stroll in the park, not like they just ran the equivalent of a steeple chase.

[kenina]

That's a good one, housemouse! Good reason to go back and watch that scene and laugh at them for not being out of breath.

I found two--well, really three--bloopers recently while watching Doggone. Sorry if these have already been mentioned. First, when Jim calls the squad right after he's abandoned in Hoboken, his phone has a black casing/cover on it in some shots, and is bare in other shots. Look closely. It alternates with almost every shot.

Also, I *finally* found the frame that shows the camera crew in it! It's immediately after he trips over the red thing, whatever it is. He falls, gets to his feet, and the next wide shot, that shows him stumbling around a bit, and you can see the bridge in the background -- that's the one where the crew is, all the way to the right. They're kind of camouflaged because it's such a busy shot, but they are there! Fun.

Finally, the scene where the NJ troopers arrive to pick up Jim in Hoboken was clearly shot at a different time and in a different place than the rest of the Hoboken stuff. The sun is clearly setting (or rising?), so the timing is off, and he's no longer in this dusty, dirty abandoned-factory junkyard. He told Karen he would stay where he was, but he's clearly pretty far removed from that location when the car pulls up to him. Wonder how he got there??

[maggiethecat]

kenina said:

mlm828 said:

Here's another goof, from "Marlon's Brando." In the squad room, before Jim and Karen leave to "sit on" Condell's apartment, they are told it is in the East Village, which was in Manhattan the last time I checked. When they are crossing the street from the car to Condell's building, we see lower Manhattan in the distance, as if they are in Brooklyn. Later, when Jim calls for an ambulance after Condell shoots himself, he says they are at an address in Brooklyn.

Ahhh...can't believe I never made that connection! I did, however, slightly obsessively, look up the intersection where Karen and Jim get out of the car. Best I can tell, based on the "Myrtle St" street sign and the storefront on the corner that appears to reads "Supper Club," I think it's the Five Spot Supper Club at Washington and Myrtle in Brooklyn. (I looked it up so I can go visit it when I'm in NYC in October!)

And because I'm such a cynic, I simply assumed it was Bochco & Co. putting street signs on LA locations to replicate New York. (Have you noticed how often they throw a Sabrett hotdog cart into a shot, to give it Noo Yawk flavor?) After 11 years of NYPD BLUE, Bochco knows every street on LA that looks the least bit like Manhattan. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, and the difference is usually -- for me, anyway -- in little things like the width of the street or the depth of the sidewalk.

[doobrah]

housemouse said:

In Seoul Man Tom and Marty chase the suspect through most of the clothing manufacturer where he works. They run for a good two minutes, jumping over things, and finally running down a staircase. When the fellow finally falls after tripping over a stack of something, Marty and Tom are right there to nab him. They grab him, pick him up and shove him against the wall to start interrogating him. There is only one problem, none of them are out of breath. They are all talking like they were out for a stroll in the park, not like they just ran the equivalent of a steeple chase.

This scene has bugged me from the first time I saw it. Not only are they not out of breath, but I thought the chase went on much too long. Two minutes-- didn't realize it was that long, but I do fast forward through it. If I'd have known, I would have been yapping about filler long before "Dance with Me."

[kytdunne]

doobrah said:

This scene has bugged me from the first time I saw it. Not only are they not out of breath, but I thought the chase went on much too long. Two minutes-- didn't realize it was that long, but I do fast forward through it. If I'd have known, I would have been yapping about filler long before "Dance with Me."

Maybe they were giving us time to notice that Russo wasn't catching the guy....

(Not that the show was overly guilty of such behavior.)

Kyt

[Katryna]

kytdunne said:

mlm828 said:

Jim uses the same or a similar gesture at least one other time, in "Past Imperfect," when Greg asks him a question to which he doesn't have an answer. It seems to be a gesture he uses to say, "Who knows?" So I don't think it was too much of a coincidence that he would use it to respond to Karen's question.

My fave dual-move is the crossed-arms in the locker room after Dunbar ran into Selway. Loved it. And Dunbar is just soooo visually responsive that he's good to watch.

Kyt

This is a great dual-move. In watching this scene, Jim & Tom are standing quite near one another and if you listen, you can hear that Tom has made a motion. We all know Jim has good ears - he says so in the same episode. Having heard Tom's movement, it might not have been that hard to mimic the same move.

[housemouse]

Let me preface this by saying I worked in banking for my entire (pre-children) career, arguably a very "button down" profession. All of the men wore suits every single day. During the day every one of them took off their jacket and hung it up. They worked all day in a shirt and tie.

In watching Rub a Tub Tub, I noticed that Sellway, Russo, Fisk and Dunbar wore their jackets all day in the squad room. One might call this a blooper.

[rducasey]

In Marlon's Brando when Jim arrives home and finds the door ajar, and enters the apartment, you can see a half a glass of wine and an open magazine on the dining room table and unless that was what one of them had for breakfast, then Christie had to have been home for more than a minute. But she tells Jim, she has just come in, (I can't remember the exact words, sorry) Ahem.... also didn't she tell Jimmy that morning that they couldn't "pick it up tonight" because it was Fashion Week and she would not be home?

[Katryna]

In Four Feet Under after the scene with the Medical Examiner explaining her findings to Jim and Karen, they interview Lloyd Crider again. During the conversation Karen says: "The Medical Examiner said the arm was serious." I have played this several times and I hear Jim's next sentence as "He said it would be very tough not to notice".

Did anyone else hear this as "he"? Is this a blooper???